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Sander
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 17, 2003 17:07    Post subject: Reply with quote

No, they actually arrested someone. You have to keep in mind that it isn't certain that he did it, he's still a suspect. Branding people like that is way too easy....
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 18, 2003 11:42    Post subject: Reply with quote

Talking of Swedish politicians, I think It's not the first time in the last decades that a brilliant politician is assasined... The country's prime minister was killed about a decade ago, and in the late sixties ( Congo Crisis ) the first secretary of the UN was assassinated in Northern Rhodesia, along with 15 other people when a fighter plane shot down the UN peacekeeping mission.

The worst thing is that this version was never confirmed, although there were about 50 witnesses who saw the plane being shot down. The Happy Ending part is that the guy "obtained" the Nobel Peace prize and became a national hero.
I think this first secretary was Swedish too, but I'm not absolutely certain... So if someone reading this lives in Sweden, please correct me if I'm wrong.
I remember his name started with an H, couldn't manage to remember it...
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 18, 2003 12:42    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kharn wrote:
Blade Runner wrote:
7 Muslim fundamentalism


Question; what about Jewish and Christian fundamentalism? Or is that "A-okay, 'cause God's on OUR side"?


You have a point there, but that's the way the newspaper did it, so...

However: if I were to make - let's say - a top ten of the main problems in this world, I wouldn't include Jewish and Christian fundamentalism in my list either. IMHO Jewish and Christian fundamentalism are not global problems, they don't seem to threaten the world order (or do you believe that Zionist thing?). Muslim fundamentalism is far more agressive, isn't it? And it is definitely a global problem (from New York to Indonesia). Yeah, I'd include Muslim fundamentalism in my list too. And I'm an atheist (I'd say: ALL religions should be considered potential global problems).
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 18, 2003 17:47    Post subject: Reply with quote

Blade Runner wrote:
However: if I were to make - let's say - a top ten of the main problems in this world, I wouldn't include Jewish and Christian fundamentalism in my list either. IMHO Jewish and Christian fundamentalism are not global problems, they don't seem to threaten the world order (or do you believe that Zionist thing?). Muslim fundamentalism is far more agressive, isn't it? And it is definitely a global problem (from New York to Indonesia). Yeah, I'd include Muslim fundamentalism in my list too. And I'm an atheist (I'd say: ALL religions should be considered potential global problems).


Well, that would depend on whether ot not Dubyah Bush falls under Christian fundemantalism, doesn't it?

And yes, Jewish fundamentalism could be considered a problem with "that Zionist thing", but I don't believe in that any more than I think the religion of the Sikhs is their reason to fight for an independant country.

PS: atheism is a religion.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 18, 2003 18:07    Post subject: Reply with quote

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atheism is a religion.


Damn straight.

Besides, muslim fundamentalism isn't the problem, it's the people taking that to terrorist levels(And the dictators), thus, terrorism and the dictators are the problems. Not fundamentalism at itself.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 18, 2003 18:37    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kharn wrote:

PS: atheism is a religion.


Right on! And so is Imperialism, capatalism, and botulism.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 18, 2003 19:07    Post subject: Reply with quote

Muslim fundementalisim is Wahhabisim or Persian Sh'iite........that means a global war until all lands are under the control of Islam. I am not going into the argument on the nature of Islam, just pointing out that Wahhabisim is basically the equivelt of the KKK or the Neo-Nazis of Islam, only several million times larger.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 18, 2003 19:19    Post subject: Reply with quote

Now I'm wondering why discrimination isn't on that list of 13 bad things, and muslim fundamentalism.

Now, constipated, I'm not sure about this, but isn't it so that that form of fundamentalism is just ONE form of muslim fundamentalism, and that there are also other muslim fundamentalist groups?
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 21, 2003 15:41    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think the 'corruption' of this world is a deception. The media coverage these days make sure you know every negative thing that has happened. It's all relative.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 21, 2003 19:27    Post subject: Reply with quote

Did you know that Dag Hammarskjöld was assasinated by CIA and MI5? Here's an article about it.
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