No Mutants Allowed

[Brother None]

It's a slow newstime, so I thought I'd give a node to Todd Howard PCZone's history of open-world games.

Todd howard, game director at Bethesda reckons gamers love freedom. "They feel more like the character they're playing." he explains.

"They're doing what they want to do and not what you, the designer, wants them to do. The more open, the more reactive you can make it, the better the player experience."

Rather than preenting us with a thrilling, scripted rollercoaster ride, titles such as The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion and the forthcoming Fallout 3 present us with vast worlds that we can inhabit, and decide what kind of character we want to be - whether it's a Redguard bard with penchant for alchemy or a lone Jet addict and his dog battling mutants in a post-nuclear wasteland.

Link: The complete history of open-world games (part 1) on PCZone.

[Josh]

For a west coast drug engineered by one man who gets stabbed, jet sure does travel far.
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[Ausir]

Maybe the BOS took it with them?
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[Bodybag]

Yeah, it's too bad they didn't create their own drug for the game, so we could then liken it to some overt fantasy analogue. Like a curse.

Now we're stuck with something that already explicitly existed in the universe (BUMMER).

[Wooz]

Don't troll, vomitbag.
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[Brother None]

[goffy59]

I heard from one ending of F2 that jets popularity faded. How the fuck does it end up on the east coast? Considering even meth hasn't fully propagated to the east coast, why would jet?
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A friend of you visits you and you say: "What the bloody, bloody, bloody hell are you doing here?!

[Brother None]

Uh, also, before we go overboard here, even though the discussion of "could Jet be on the east" is fascinating, realise one thing: that is PCZone speaking, not anyone from Bethesda. They could be talking Fallout as a setting, not specifically Fallout 3.

DO NOT JUMP TO CONCLUSIONS

[Dracon M'Alkir]

[Phil the Nuka-Cola Dude]

Oh god, they compared F3 to Oblivion...

[Bodybag]

[Brother None]

[Dougly]

I guess theoretically it'd have been possible for one of the Brotherhood members to bring the knowledge of how to make Jet along with him/her. And, then, when they finally get to the East Coast, they remember how much of a killing Jet made out west before production went under - so they break off, form their own operation, and start kicking out Jet. This would also explain the lack of any kind of a cure being distributed on the East Coast: The only guy who knows how to make it, isn't.

Unfortunately, this idea has its own problems. Namely, it would mean that no one else who came along with the Brotherhood knows enough about Jet/has the knowledge they'd need to whip up the Jet cure, even though the Brotherhood is supposedly a haven for tech and science knowledge - and, even though, if my understanding is correct, the East Coast Brotherhood is in contact with the West Coast Brotherhood (which should at least know ABOUT the cure, even if they don't know how to make it) via radio.

It's always possible to explain this stuff away, but, yes, in this case, I think it would be much better if Jet stayed away from the East Coast. Here's to hoping this was just PCZone, and not an indication that Jet will actually be in the game.

[K.C. Cool]

The jet comment sounded like the PCZone guy was simply making a quick comment while being contextual with the fallout world.

But since we're talking about hypotheticals, all it takes is a decent enough explanation in the game to say "Okay, this is canon."

Jet trader: "Well, a few years back a guy walks into town wearin' a beat up set of power armor and a sack full of jet over his shoulder. Tells us we should try it, and just like that we were hooked and wanted more! Didn't take much convincin' from the town folk to help him transform the old brewing plant into a jet production facility. They say he comes from far out west, learned the recipe from some one or another out there."

Talk to the guy that brought it and he tells you he learned if from a jet addicted prostitute bragging that she got the recipe by putting a knife to Myron's balls. the BOS wannabie got there via developed trade routes across the US with a dream to make a killing selling addicting substances.

It doesn't take much to say "This is it." It just depends on if it's believable or not. Not everything has to be fileld in, much like how Harold appeared outside of tjhe military base after being knocked out.
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[Ausir]

Afterburner Gum was the Jet replacement in Tactics.
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[Morbus]

At least Micro Forté had imagination.
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from The Book of Mozilla, 7:15

[Bad_Karma]

Okay, can somebody help cleath things up for me, with the definition of open-world, Howard and the article might use?
I somewhat got confused about the fact, that Howards seem to draw a line between reactive-world and open-world, as i allways thought of it as being linked together? (Open to reactive).

Jet at the east-coast? Everythings possible with BOS and Supermutants on the east-coast....
And open-world means everything possible, no?
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