No Mutants Allowed

[Crni Vuk]

I would call it mediocre at best. But that opinion is based on the last two games I played Me1 and Me2. Which does not mean I didnt liked it. Just that its not worth the money. Got the other games both for 10$. And I sure will not buy Me3 before it drops in prizes. And even then only if I have a chance to play it without origin. Which probably wont happen. So a no-go for me. Sadly. Their online-drm crap is something I despise. I am playing currently Diablo 3 over the account from a good friend. I only play the single player. Yet I sometimes get disconected. Sucks when that happens. Or the "little" lags which happen sometimes. Meh. I want my Singlerplayer games to be single player again ...

Anyway. The stuff I have heard from Me3 tells me that I will hate the game because the ending seems to suck (from what I have seen on youtube).

[Ilosar]

Origin is nothing like the D3 DRM. It's basically Steam, only EA and AFAIK without an offline mode. Connect, click play, there we go. I also feel that the multiplayer isva worthwhile addition to the game (and I was anti-MP before I actually played it), but that's just me. If you didn't like ME 1&2, the chances you like the third are low, so you'd best skip it I guess.
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Shepard: Conrad... if you have a shrine to me, I'm going to be upset.

Conrad: it's just a poster and some candles, it's very tasteful.

[Kilus]

Don't like the three colour cupcake ending?

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You Can reject them but it gives you a new bad ending. Cuts to Liara's probe message. Class Act Bioware.

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[Crni Vuk]

[Kilus]

Saying DRM is DRM is like saying Money is Money and thus everyone is the same.
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[Crni Vuk]

money is money. No clue if you agree or disagree.

[Stanislao Moulinsky]

So...

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-You have more dialogue choices with the star kid that explain things a bit more

-You can reject the star kid BS or shoot him but leads to bad ending. The cycle continues, the good guys lose. Hilariously I've read that the scene at the end still mentions "the Sheperd that saved the universe".

-In the proper endings the Mass relays are only damaged and the Normandy isn't stranded anymore, making those two things that were obviously meant to be significant basically pointless (they didn't thought of the implications of the destruction of the MRs?)

-Shyntesys is still BS and probably even worse, with the reapers becoming buddy-buddy with everyone (?) and EDI ecstatic that people have a chance to become immortal...while still being able to have children... Again, Bioware doesn't seem to understand the implications of what they wrote

-Control puts Shepard into...er...control of the reapers and he uses them as a force of good to protect the galaxy

-Destroy is simple. Bad guys dead, good guys rebuild

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[donperkan]

[Stanislao Moulinsky]

[Ilosar]

I don't wanna spoiler my whole post. Read at your own risk if you care about the EC.

Ok, since you don't wanna, I did it for you - BN

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Well, there still exists a hell of a lot of plot holes. They even added to them, such as how the hell do they repair the Normandy when stranded on a backwater planet, how exactly do they survive such a crash, and what's the meaning of that scene anyhow. I mean, they crash, rebuild, and away they go. So what was the point? obviously the crashes were not widespread, else the ending monologue would talk about it. Same with blowing up them Mass Relays. I mean, I guess it's symbolism for destroying any trace of the Cycle. But then we just rebuild them, and the ridiculously massive Citadel too to boot. So we rebuild those extremely advanced pieces of technology just like that, when previously we didn,t have a single clue as t how they worked?

And the new Catalyst scene is just adding BS on top of the existing BS. Synthesis means we reach an ''understanding'', how, by brainwashing us to love each other? A mind rape of galactic proportions, no fucking thanks. Control has become far more tolerable, albeit taking the star-brat's word for it that Shepard will direct them and still be as he was is a bit much to swallow. Eh, if it was possible, I would consider using Control, then making the Reapers help rebuild, and then have them all dive in a remote sun. No need to kill synthetics, and we're rid of the space squids of doom. Not to mention that the Catalyst defeats its own argument by admitting it using it's creators to create Harbinger against they own will. How is it peace when you kill one side to create more of another? Oh, but it's not really a war because they're just doing what they are told/created to do. So when a guided drone kills you, nay genocides your whole civilization, it's not war, its just doing what it was designed to do. And said drone was created by melting down untold number of people into paste in the most horrifying way possible, but don't worry, they are ''preserved'', even if they are now a gestalt intelligence prisonner of a massive ship obeying the whims of a logically faulty AI. Its whole argument and very existence is absolute BS.

And the fourth ending just seems to be Bioware being petty. ''oh, what's that, you don't like the Catalyst? Well deal with it or die!!''.

That being said, the epilogue slides were nice (I smiled at the Asari/Krogan celebrating their victories, and at Zaeed enjoying his beer on the beach, I admit) and the memorial to Shepard and Anderson were good too. So yeah, the EC helps with the ending in some places, but utterly fails to address the problems in others. I guess I can play the game again now, if only to complete my trilogy playthrough in a few months when I got the time. It's still a sour note, but it's less of a slap in the face than it was.

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Shepard: Conrad... if you have a shrine to me, I'm going to be upset.

Conrad: it's just a poster and some candles, it's very tasteful.

[The Dutch Ghost]

I didn't realize the extended ending DLC was out already and had a quick look at them on Youtube.

A lot of the people there praise the DLC but personally I find it improves nothing at all and as someone before me here said, only opens more plot holes.

Everyone will have his or her own opinion but I honestly say now that the whole Mass Effect trilogy was a big waste of time.

Its now clear that from the get go the sole purpose of ME was to set up a sci-fi franchise that can be milked like the Halo games through games, books, comics, action figures and eventually a movie.

That I actually wasted money on this.
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[donperkan]

As far as i'm concerned your plot holes are trivial if you chose the synthesis ending.

By merging org. and syn. a new life form is created, that lifeform could possess the traits and knowledge of all advanced races reaped and present. By taking that in consideration rebuilding the mass relays and the citadel is not an issue. With synthesis possibilities are endless.

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"As the line between syntethic and organic disappears, we may trascend mortality itself...to reach a level of existence I cannot even imagine."

That's the way i undertstood it since i first saw the synthesis ending.

[The Dutch Ghost]

Its still a deus ex ending as the Reapers have never given any indication they would promote a merge of the organic and the synthetic.

Plus how is this an effective solution to the problem of sentient species creating even more greater intelligence.

It was addressed as artificial intelligence eventually becoming a threat to 'regular' life because of growing tensions between the two.
Organic life may now have 'crossed the bridge' so to speak, now being more able to relate to machine intelligence but it could be any form of intelligence that sooner or later decides that the rest is really just a big waste of resources and space it feels it can use more optimal itself.
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[Stanislao Moulinsky]

I'm still wondering what kind of "new solution" is Destroy. Sure, all the synthetics are gone but they can be rebuilt. The star child itself was sure that new synthetics would eventually be made again, that's why he created the reapers and the cycles, so...what the hell?
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[The Dutch Ghost]

[Ilosar]

[Crni Vuk]

I still don't get this "synthetics kill organics" logic. There are so many metaphysical possibilities to it. Anyone watching and reading some of the "old" Sci-Fi stuff knows about it one way or another. Sentient machines killing their creators.

Though. If there is an synthetic organism so far advanced particularly in their intelligence who is saying that they decide to destroy all kind of organic life? Co-existence does not even cross their mind? And yet they develop this whole story about the quarrians and the geth which shows that Shepard managed to overcome many of the ods here. Hell no. It was even the reapers misleading the geth here.

Meh. This whole explanation for the reapers sounds to me like a big pile of turd. They really tried it to hard here to give it this "big deep meaningful reason".

You know, maybe they should have never even tried to really explain the reapers. Simply seeing them as one of the many huge mysteries of the the cosmos. Things sometimes really lose their appeal once you explain it.

[The Dutch Ghost]

I still liked the idea that the Reapers are some kind of celestial engineers, performing tasks that are beyond our understanding and requiring species and civilizations to 'fuel' themselves and increase their numbers.

That would go pretty well along with what you suggest Crni Vuk.

Characters in the games could point that out to Shep, "Does it matter if we can understand them or what their goals truly are? It could be trivial or so beyond our scope that we can hardly imagine what it is like. In the end it just comes down to this 'Its us or them'."
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[Ilosar]

[Stanislao Moulinsky]

Personally I think that the best ending is

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Refuse/Reject/Bad Ending. It fits more thematically and the Reapers were defeated anyway, only in the next cycle and without showing any post-ending stupidity like the friendly neighborhood Reapers.

Too bad that you can only refuse to choose and not argue with the star-child how utterly BS his logic is.
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I don't know the key to success, but the key to failure is trying to please everybody.
Bill Cosby