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Brother None · Last edited by Brother None on Sat Sep 15, 2012 23:23; edited 3 times in total

IGN has presented a list of top 100 RPGs, as is usually the case for such a list, there's no way of doing it right, especially if you're going to include the likes of Pokemon and Paper Mario.

Wasteland isn't listed at all, while Fallout 3 at #10 outranks both Fallout (#34) and Fallout 2 (#28). In the non-post-apoc realm, it also fails to list the likes of Darklands, Rogue, Realms of Arkania, and any of the three seminal cRPGs Troika created, while of course it can't skip on great works like Fable II, Mass Effect 2, Neverwinter Nights 1/2 and Icewind Dale 2. Haha. Just. Hahaha.

Fallout 3 marked a shift in the industry, a move that saw the western RPG begin to surpass its Japanese counterparts. Fallout 3 is a massive game set in an equally massive open world where you can go in any direction you like and do anything you want to do... as long as you can survive long enough to do so, that is. Set in a post-apocalyptic American wasteland rife with memorable characters, Fallout 3 is the epitome of the deep, modern RPG and the archetype that many developers will mimic moving forward.

Hahaha.

Thanks GameBanshee.

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Lexx · Posted: Sat Sep 15, 2012 23:13 Post subject:

Looks like this list is more about popularity than anything else. Of course, it all could be just a huge troll attempt as well, especially when one considers the Fallout 3 description.
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Brother None · Posted: Sat Sep 15, 2012 23:17 Post subject:

I think lists like these are always an exercise in futility.

JRPGs are not for me, but I'm not exactly opposed to them in principle. I don't think it's a good idea to muddle a top list by conflating the jRPG and wRPG genre and then list the likes of Pokemon in there.

Also ignorance of history more than 2 console generations ago is...typical. There's no way to justify listing Ultima VII that low, or missing Darklands.

Walpknut · Posted: Sat Sep 15, 2012 23:23 Post subject:

Also, they talk about JRPGs but no mention of Shin Megami Tensei Nocturne?
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Ilosar · Posted: Sat Sep 15, 2012 23:36 Post subject:

These lists are designed to generate controversy and fandom wars. Controversy = more clicks, more clicks = more $ for the profesionnal bottom kissers over at IGN.

Only thing that surprised me is that Final Fantasy VI, not VII or Skyrim or FO3, made it to the top. It's the only FF I played, and it was really good to be honest. Not my top RPG by far, but they could have done worse for numero uno.

List is still shit however, if for no other reason than it puts JRPGs, WRPGs and games like Diablo on the same list.
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killap · Posted: Sat Sep 15, 2012 23:51 Post subject:

Haha, such a bad list.

Also, the picture for F2 is of the Primitive Tribe from my Restoration Project. It's from 1.2 of the RP (damn, I wish sites stopped hosting it) but definitely from my mod. Yay the RP is gold standard. Cool

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Lexx · Posted: Sun Sep 16, 2012 0:24 Post subject:

TorontRayne · Posted: Sun Sep 16, 2012 0:43 Post subject:

It seems they got a lot of the console RPG's down, but hardly any of the awesome pc titles. Oblivion before Morrowind. Pffttt. Fallout 3 before Fallout 1 and 2. Garbage. Skyrim in the top 10. Give me a fucking break. Worst of all, no Arcanum or Wasteland? Hell I would put SotN in before Pokemon Black! IGN is ruining everything. This is the gaming site that tons of people put their faith in? The comments are even more hilarious to boot. It boils down to people arguing over which game should or shouldn't be on the list, lot's of people debating the definition of a RPG, and dudes spouting out death wish's. I also believe they intentionally make stupid lists to get more hits.

Bengt · Posted: Sun Sep 16, 2012 0:50 Post subject:

Tbh though, I'd take FO3 over any JRPG any day.

Good thing WL2 is on the way and Obsidians little project seems to be going well. Yay western RPG comeback!

(Where is the cover for Obsidians Kickstarter effort btw?)

.Pixote. · Posted: Sun Sep 16, 2012 1:32 Post subject:

Such nonsense...the fact i have to click through each individual game sucks donkeys balls. Fallout is the greatest RPG of all time, right gentlemen... Razz

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Brother None · Posted: Sun Sep 16, 2012 2:59 Post subject:

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I think he means a news article
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Brother None · Posted: Sun Sep 16, 2012 3:25 Post subject:

Not in our purveyance.

Eternal · Posted: Sun Sep 16, 2012 5:12 Post subject:

Some good picks and a lot of dumb picks.

I can understand leaving out some games, even classics, but if there is one game that should have been in there SOMEWHERE it is Arcanum. The fact that didn't make the list is a downright travesty.
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Diospyros · Posted: Sun Sep 16, 2012 6:21 Post subject:

X-Play (a video game review show on G4, a US network) is equally as bad. I remember a few years ago they awarded Mario & Luigi: Bowser's Inside Story with RPG of the year. It was the same year the first Dragon Age game came out. Ok, Dragon Age may not rank with the all time greats but it is vastly superior to some Mario game.

I doubt most reviewers really get RPGs. I think they fundamentally see it as an FPS or action game with a story, rather than a story in game form with action elements.

Sub-Human · Posted: Sun Sep 16, 2012 7:38 Post subject:

Whatever. IGN? They've been doing this for the past few years.

person · Posted: Sun Sep 16, 2012 8:41 Post subject:

Reminds me of my middle school talent show . . .

The popular kids won.

SuAside · Posted: Sun Sep 16, 2012 9:34 Post subject:

Hardly surprizing that IGN would go for blatantly obvious marketing, sales numbers over quality and obviously for whatever causes them to get most clicks.