ATOM RPG 1.0 is released!

Discussion in 'NMA News and Information' started by Proletären, Dec 20, 2018.

  1. Black Angel

    Black Angel Grand Inquisitor of the Ordo Hereticus

    Mar 21, 2016
    Heh, I see some people feel this game is actually slower, and I can see it since with the 3D animation I saw with my own eyes how characters take their time turning around before beginning to move to their destination in combat. Especially since with mods like sfall, Fallout in comparison can be much, much faster, not to mention Fallout already has in-built combat speed slider.

    Also, I'd say Soviet Fallout is much more fitting because gameplay mechanics are near carbon copy of SPECIAL-skills-perks&traits system, with turn-based combat where you can perform aimed shots and have gory death
    and then writings, narrative, and quests designs are also inspired a lot by Fallout, but since it's taking place in the Soviet Wasteland, then it's not too much of a stretch to call it "Soviet Fallout".... or at least, Fallout-inspired Post-Nuclear Soviet Role-Playing Game.
     
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  2. JohnnyCasey

    JohnnyCasey First time out of the vault

    Dec 13, 2018

    Yeah. Fallout doesn't have this 'Enemy goes back and forth behind the cover and make your life hard to take him down' feature.

    I made a Steam discussion post about it, but apparently developers butthurtted so much they deleted it when they banned me from its forum. Cause I can't seem to find it.
     
  3. JohnnyCasey

    JohnnyCasey First time out of the vault

    Dec 13, 2018
    Really, the game is nothing but a slavic wet dreams about reincarnating original Fallout. It literally has anything good.
     
  4. mef

    mef Where'd That 6th Toe Come From?

    Dec 29, 2014
    :lol:
    if they really deleted your post, that's really not cool
     
  5. Black Angel

    Black Angel Grand Inquisitor of the Ordo Hereticus

    Mar 21, 2016
    What's your Steam username? Maybe I can find it. Doesn't really seem like worth deleting, especially considering one of their team members are being very active over at RPG Codex even until this very second, taking literally every criticism and even shitposts with grace.

    Anyway, 'Enemy goes back and forth behind the cover and make your life hard to take him down' is a pretty opinionated sentence, don't you think? By itself, 'Enemy goes back and forth behind the cover' is actually an improvement in AI aspect. Enemies also goes back and forth behind the cover in Underrail, and the only way you can get them to stay in the open would be to goes back and forth behind the cover by yourself.
     
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  6. ironmask

    ironmask Still Mildly Glowing

    Mar 10, 2018
    Enemies going back and forth behind cover is realistic. No one in real life would wonder out into the open so you can shoot them.
     
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  7. Valdetiosi

    Valdetiosi Look, Ma! Two Heads!

    Jul 14, 2017
    Obviously, every enemy should blindly and suicidaly charge at you, because that is what people except from video game enemies.
     
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  8. Black Angel

    Black Angel Grand Inquisitor of the Ordo Hereticus

    Mar 21, 2016
    They must not have played STALKER, 'cause the enemies in those are being real smart who retreated behind cover when reloading, flanking when there's the opportunity, and not charging at a gun-toting stalker with a knife in hand!
     
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  9. Norzan

    Norzan Vault Senior Citizen

    Apr 7, 2017
    Yeah, the last enemy tends to run off and go for cover and this is a good thing. It means they are not braindead idiots who throw themselves at you when they are the only enemy alive.
     
  10. Makta

    Makta The DICKtator

    Jul 29, 2010
    I find it odd that in that clip you send people the same way around to kill the guy that runs away from them to keep in cover. NPC acting smart while you play like an old AI running straight into danger.
     
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  11. Valdetiosi

    Valdetiosi Look, Ma! Two Heads!

    Jul 14, 2017
    GGManLives complained about enemies doing that in his STALKER review. God forbid enemies are acting like people and not robots.
     
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  12. Squadcar

    Squadcar Water Chip? Been There, Done That

    Jun 1, 2018
    God forbid a shooter game (you know the genre that's mostly skill based) isn't actually just a movie and it asks you to aim and position yourself.
     
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  13. ironmask

    ironmask Still Mildly Glowing

    Mar 10, 2018
    GGGmanlives is mostly a good reviewer but he does have some shit videos.
     
  14. SuAside

    SuAside Testament to the ghoul lifespan
    Admin

    May 27, 2004
    You're troubled by the fact that a guy with an axe doesn't blindly rush to meet three guys with rifles & machine guns?

    Arguably, you could expect him to run away scared once all his friends are dead, staying in cover is his second best option in combat as it allows him to close the gap.
     
  15. JohnnyCasey

    JohnnyCasey First time out of the vault

    Dec 13, 2018
    As I mentioned in my deleted post in Steam, the smartest thing the enemy should do when he's out numbered and absolutely no chance to beat the player, is to just run the hell a way, which WAS the case in Fallout 1 and 2.

    Running back and forth behind cover may seems like 'smart' move for some of you, but to me, it's nothing more than a thing that makes your life harder. It has no point. The guy with axe IS gonna die to me anyway. Why make it harder?

    On top of that, the game is turn based, where moving and attacking is very limited. You can't do both at the same time - which makes hunting the down enemy behind cover extremely tedious and hard to do so. If the game was real time, enemies hiding back and forth behind cover was a welcome choice for tactics. In this case, it's not.

    It's exactly the same case how German tried to defend their homeland with civilian armies in WW2. The smartest choice they should have make was to just surrender. Their attempt to 'defend't the homeland was worthless and had no point for doing so.

    I'm the one who made the post, and I said I can't find it. I search through my post history, and I found nothing. The developers clearly butt-hurted over my criticism, such as how the game follows the EXACT same boring UI control like in Fallout 1 and 2, where you have to drag and drop to move the items, rather than simply clicking on them.

    I made a post about how the UI control should have been(Ctrl+Left Click to move the one of each item without popping up the quantity menu, etc.), when the game was still in early access, but it never implemented to the final game. And that was only one of many things I suggested to the developers. They just didn't listen.

    Sure, I may had some heated discussions with the other users, but my point was still valid. They denied everything I suggested simply because I was apparently 'disrespectful' to other users.

    But that's how bad the companion control it is. It's somewhat worse than a 20+ years old game, which ironically, what this game supposedly inspired of.
     
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  16. ironmask

    ironmask Still Mildly Glowing

    Mar 10, 2018
    You do know double posting is not allowed right?
     
  17. RangerBoo

    RangerBoo Vault Fossil

    Jun 15, 2015
    Jesus, does Johnny boy love to hear himself talk.
     
  18. Squadcar

    Squadcar Water Chip? Been There, Done That

    Jun 1, 2018
    You can quote multiple posts with replies below each one all in one post dude.


    Kinda
    Like this


    Well, were you? Even if you have a point people don't tolerate being talked to in a negative or disrespectful manner and I don't blame them. You can be right or whatever you think you are all you want but you're not going to call me an asshat and have me tolerate that if I haven't done anything to actually provoke or disrespect you.
     
  19. JohnnyCasey

    JohnnyCasey First time out of the vault

    Dec 13, 2018
    Uh, no. Because no one told me that's not allowed until now, nor I believe that's something that should not be allowed, nor this site has a function to prevent the users doing double posting. But I do know now, and double posting won't happen again. There's no need to insult the one who didn't know about it.

    I... don't know what this means.
     
  20. Squadcar

    Squadcar Water Chip? Been There, Done That

    Jun 1, 2018
    Then read the rules? I don't know what else to tell you. Not trying to insult you.

    And how was I unclear? I asked if you were rude because their actions would make sense.
     
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