Computer issue - Reboot and select proper boot device.

Discussion in 'General Gaming and Hardware Forum' started by Mr Fish, Oct 15, 2016.

  1. valcik

    valcik So Old I'm Losing Radiation Signs

    Dec 20, 2008
    Could've been anything, ransomware which overwrites your MBR could have done that for example.
     
  2. Mr Fish

    Mr Fish ...I Remember...

    Sep 11, 2010
    Could that thing "ransomware" lay dormant on the HDD too? Cause if I do switch the ssd out then I don't want the next one to just go corrupt the moment it connects to the HDD.
     
  3. valcik

    valcik So Old I'm Losing Radiation Signs

    Dec 20, 2008
    Technically yes. If you've got it as a e-mail, and downloaded/extracted it to your HDD, the same would happen again after running the same file by manually. Or by opening/running the same e-mail attachment again. I don't know whether this was ransomware or not though, but you can protect your MBR from being overwritten with some nifty tools:
    http://blog.talosintel.com/2016/10/mbrfilter.html
     
  4. Mr Fish

    Mr Fish ...I Remember...

    Sep 11, 2010
    Yeah I don't use email.
    I mean, I do for like activating a new account on a site or for changing passwords for Steam and stuff like that but I don't use email. And I most certainly don't accept 'any' attachments from emails.

    I'll keep that link in mind for later.
     
  5. AskWazzup

    AskWazzup Sonny, I Watched the Vault Bein' Built!

    Aug 21, 2008
    What kind of ransomware would render a computer unusable before actually asking for a ransom?
     
  6. Buxbaum666

    Buxbaum666 Heterostructured Nanorod oTO Orderite

    Dec 5, 2003
    No idea, tbh. I mean it shouldn't mean that, it's just an odd choice for a gaming PC. How old is it?

    Uh ... no, I don't think so.
     
  7. valcik

    valcik So Old I'm Losing Radiation Signs

    Dec 20, 2008
    Broken, test/old version, different language mutation, badly written? Could have been any other malware messing with MBR anyway.
     
  8. Mr Fish

    Mr Fish ...I Remember...

    Sep 11, 2010
    The PC? A year and a half I think. The ssd? It came with the PC, so no idea.
     
  9. AskWazzup

    AskWazzup Sonny, I Watched the Vault Bein' Built!

    Aug 21, 2008
    Plain corruption, or malware seems like a more plausible scenario to me. Even then, from what i understand mbr is used to boot the system, but he started to notice strange behaviour while already booted into the system.
     
  10. MutantScalper

    MutantScalper Dark side in da houssah

    Nov 22, 2009
    I used to watch free live sports feeds on net but not doing that anymore. My anti-virus warns me about those.
     
  11. Mr Fish

    Mr Fish ...I Remember...

    Sep 11, 2010
    I used Avast! if that helps. Performed monthly full scans, weekly quick scans and daily smart scans.
     
  12. MutantScalper

    MutantScalper Dark side in da houssah

    Nov 22, 2009
    I just the other day switched from Avast to F-Secure that will after the free two months cost a couple euros per month. Avast has a paid version that might be better.
     
  13. Mr Fish

    Mr Fish ...I Remember...

    Sep 11, 2010
    Right, update:

    I bought a new SSD and a disk of Windows 8.
    I've taken out the old SSD and unplugged the HDD and ran the computer without the disc.
    Same problem.
    So I ran it with the disc.
    Ended up installing Windows 8 on the new SSD.
    Computer works and boots up normally.

    I noticed that there was a option with the disc to "repair windows", I'm too tired to do it at the moment but I plan on using the windows 8 disc to repair windows on the old ssd.

    If that fails then hey, the computer still works on the new SSD.
    Only problem that remains in that case for me is that I would need to take out the old HDD to put in the new SSD in its place and move the HDD over to a specific HDD port at the front of the computer.

    Anyway, progress!

    [edit]

    in case I can't get the old ssd to work and I have to migrate over to this new one how do I go about turning on GeForce, the graphic card?

    [edit 2]

    Right, so I'm not gonna try to even plug in the old SSD. The old SSD was this tiny thing who's port is inbetween the motherboard (which is in the back) and the GeForce which is right in front of it and I have looked into what exactly I'd need to unscrew to take out the GeForce so I can have a clean look at the port and that is far too much work. I would literally need to unscrew half the computer to take it out.

    Taking the old SSD 'out' was easy. Just undo the screws that are located below the Ge-Force in plain sight and then simply grab a hold of the SSD and pull and out it came. But putting it back in? That's too much trouble for me. So fuck it.

    The old SSD didn't start up windows very quickly anyway and since I now own a new SSD which starts up the computer revoltingly fast I think I'll just stick to it.

    As to the HDD, it was kind of annoying to figure out how to undo but once I did it came out easily and I put it into the front of the computer which has an extra HDD port quite easily too.

    Both work just fine.

    Anyway, only thing that remains now is getting an HDD tray 'for' the SSD so that it doesn't lie around loose (which is why I still haven't transitioned back to it and am currently still using the laptop until I can get an HDD tray to install).

    And finally I need to install some programs and shit. I think that if I get the GeForce Experience program up and running then it'll automatically look for the driver for my graphic card and just solve it without much hassle from me.

    Once I do those two things I'll get Avast and Steam, download a relatively new AAA title and play it and see if it works. If it does then I think my computer issue may finally be solved.

    Too bad about the old SSD though. I mean, I might only have needed to get a Windows 8 disc and ran the "repair" option on the SSD to fix it up. Oh well.

    Still, I ain't in the clear just yet and so I may have more issues but if things go according to plan then I might have solved the issue.
     
    Last edited: Nov 1, 2016
  14. AskWazzup

    AskWazzup Sonny, I Watched the Vault Bein' Built!

    Aug 21, 2008
    I don't think i ever heard anyone refer to their gpu as a "GeForce" :D. How the hell do you buy games if you don't even know what kind of gpu you have inside?
     
  15. Buxbaum666

    Buxbaum666 Heterostructured Nanorod oTO Orderite

    Dec 5, 2003
    You were actually surprised about this? Did you expect the PC to boot up with an empty drive inside?

    Dude. Please call someone, *anyone* who knows even remotely what they're doing.
     
  16. Mr Fish

    Mr Fish ...I Remember...

    Sep 11, 2010
    :shrug:

    I weren't. I just wanted to see if the device was detected in BIOS and before I could press DEL I got to that same screen. I just listed the turn of events in the order that they happened in. Not because I thought anything would actually happen.

    Nope. Ain't gonna learn anything if I don't do shit on my own. I mean, if I'm this computer illiterate then wouldn't it be better that I learn things, no matter how crudely, than just call someone else up and let them fix it and remain in complete and total ignorance?

    The big ugly thing has labels on it that literally says GeForce on it. >_>

    And so I googled it:
    http://www.geforce.com/hardware/desktop-gpus/geforce-gtx-760

    "GeForce GTX 760 is a powerful, feature-rich graphics card stacked with advanced gaming technologies like NVIDIA GeForce Experience, GPU Boost 2.0, PhysX, and much more. This gives you the performance edge you need to take on the latest next-generation titles. It’s serious equipment for the serious gamer."

    What exactly am I missing here?

    As to buying games, I literally just went to a swedish online store and looked up a good gaming PC and bought it. Since then all I do is just buy games to my fancy. I don't look up specs or requirements. Either shit works or I just lower the settings so that it'll work. I don't think much of it to be honest.
     
  17. AskWazzup

    AskWazzup Sonny, I Watched the Vault Bein' Built!

    Aug 21, 2008
    Well, when you say GeForce, you are not saying much, because this:



    is also a GeForce card. Knowing what kind of model you have and doing a tiny bit of research about it's capabilities you can make better decisions when choosing between games (which i guess is not a problem for you) and more importantly - when buying a pc. A gpu is the most important part in a gaming pc (although if you have a very old, or low end cpu, the cpu could become a bottleneck). Your card was a midrange product when it came out, so while it will still last you some time, you will probably want to buy a new one in the upcoming year or two, and so you want to make the best decision possible regarding the price and performance ratio (you also want to know if your power supply meets the demand). Don't let the stores swindle you out of your money.
     
    Last edited: Nov 2, 2016
  18. Buxbaum666

    Buxbaum666 Heterostructured Nanorod oTO Orderite

    Dec 5, 2003
    That doesn't make sense to me. You posted pictures of your BIOS settings in the first post of this thread. How did you get there in the first place?

    You don't learn much by breaking stuff. It's not a very efficient way to learn if you don't even know the basics. If you catch yourself typing out the words "how do I go about turning on GeForce, the graphic card", you're better off getting some help. Always.

    Oh, I know. So do about 70% of all graphics cards these days. NVIDIA is the market leader and virtually all their cards since 1999 bear the GeForce moniker. Calling your graphics card "The GeForce" is like calling your car "the one with four wheels".

    Not much. It's three years old, though. And that's a marketing blurb from three years ago.

    Correction: you bought what they told you was a good gaming PC. The CPU isn't bad (Most Intel i5s will keep you running for years) and I guess the GPU is still reasonably capable. The case looks like cheap crap, though, there's just one bar of RAM and they probably skimped out on the main board, too. And, as I've mentioned before, they apparently used a laptop SSD.
     
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  19. Mr Fish

    Mr Fish ...I Remember...

    Sep 11, 2010
    Right-o. Dunno how I'll go about changing it though but I'll cross that bridge when I come to it.

    What? Now you're not making any sense to me. :headscratch:

    I'm talking about updating the drivers.
    Here:
    drivers.jpg
    See how my laptop has an AMD Radeon listed there? My malfunctioning desktop SSD would have GeForce listed there. My new SSD when I open this thingie doesn't list GeForce. So I was thinking that it doesn't list it because it doesn't have the latest driver or hasn't found it or whatever. I wasn't literally talking about a switch or anything on the actual part in the PC... I worded it poorly, I meant how do I activate it or whatever, how do I get GeForce to list there again?


    >_> So?
    I mean, I was talking about the actual positioning of the hardware inside the computer. Who cares whether or not I label it according to its full name? My point was simply that X (the old laptop SSD port/output/whateverthefuckyouwanttocallit) is positioned inbetween Y (the motherboard) and Z (the big ugly (the graphics card (the NVIDIA GeForce GTX760))) within the computer case, why does it matter if I just say 'that thing' instead of the NVIDIA GeForce GTX760? The point is still; I can't get to X because of how it is positioned. It would require me to take apart the entire backside of the computer case just so I can take out the GPU/graphicscard/Idon'tevenfuckingknowwhatyouwantmetocallitbutthebiguglythingthatisintheway.

    Been good so far, apart from the SSD dying.
     
  20. AskWazzup

    AskWazzup Sonny, I Watched the Vault Bein' Built!

    Aug 21, 2008


    The video is a bit old, but is a good basic introduction. They have a bunch of these on things like motherboards, cases, cpu's etc. You should watch them.