Computer issue - Reboot and select proper boot device.

Discussion in 'General Gaming and Hardware Forum' started by Mr Fish, Oct 15, 2016.

  1. Mr Fish

    Mr Fish ...I Remember...

    Sep 11, 2010
    Ew, an hour+...
    I'll bookmark it for later.
    Times like these when I miss being a console peasant, just buy a console and it'll run for years.
     
  2. MutantScalper

    MutantScalper Dark side in da houssah

    Nov 22, 2009
    There are some tutorials on Youtube and I guess elsewhere on the net that show how to increase graphics card RAM. Can that be done in a way that doesn't cause any problems such as overheating etc.?

    Like this.
     
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  3. AskWazzup

    AskWazzup Sonny, I Watched the Vault Bein' Built!

    Aug 21, 2008
    An hour is less than one lecture in a university, and there is no rigorous thinking, or analyzing involved in watching this video. You don't even have to read :shrug:.

    P.S We would probably live in a better world if everybody would set aside one hour a day to learn something new.
     
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  4. Mr Fish

    Mr Fish ...I Remember...

    Sep 11, 2010
    I have a good excuse though: I'm a lazy cunt. :)
    Seriously though, I bookmarked it, but I'm in no mood for stuff like that at the moment.
     
  5. Buxbaum666

    Buxbaum666 Heterostructured Nanorod oTO Orderite

    Dec 5, 2003
    You claimed that you couldn't get into BIOS by pressing delete before the "Reboot and Select proper boot device" message. Yet you posted photos of your BIOS earlier, meanint you could do it:
    I don't. It was just another sign that you're messing with stuff you don't remotely understand.
     
  6. Mr Fish

    Mr Fish ...I Remember...

    Sep 11, 2010
    No, I couldn't get into the boot menu thing that should've opened when I pressed F12. I could get into BIOS by pressing DEL.

    Then help me understand.
     
  7. MutantScalper

    MutantScalper Dark side in da houssah

    Nov 22, 2009
    No answer but I guess it's ok to do that.
     
  8. Buxbaum666

    Buxbaum666 Heterostructured Nanorod oTO Orderite

    Dec 5, 2003
    I see. The F12 boot menu is possibly disabled in your BIOS settings. Or your mainboard doesn't have it. It's not a universal feature, AFAIK.

    You can't learn if you're not willing to spend some time on it.
     
  9. Mr Fish

    Mr Fish ...I Remember...

    Sep 11, 2010
    There was a setting in BIOS that I had to enable for it to show up in the start screen and it would list F12 as an option for something I could press. Why would it be listed as something I can enable if it doesn't really have it?



    For the third time, I bookmarked it so I can watch it later when I feel like watching something like that.
    It's like saying that because I don't eat a carrot when I'm not hungry or don't have appetite then that means I am unwilling to eat healthy.
    The "ew" was meant to be a funny way of expressing shock over how long that particular video was.
    Finally, just cause I'm lazy doesn't mean I don't want to learn more about it. It just means I need to take it at my own pace and allocating an hour+ of my time to something that is purely educational is taxing for me (mild ADHD, I have problems sitting still when watching an episode of Game Of Thrones, something which is purely enjoyable. Imagine how an hour+ of educational information is going to feel like for me, regardless of how interested I am in the subject).
     
  10. Buxbaum666

    Buxbaum666 Heterostructured Nanorod oTO Orderite

    Dec 5, 2003
    If you can enable it, you have it. Maybe you weren't pressing F12 at the right time, I don't know. The window to do it can be rather short.
     
  11. Mr Fish

    Mr Fish ...I Remember...

    Sep 11, 2010
    Well, it did state (at the bottom left) that it was starting it up (F12 boot menu) but half a second afterwards it just flicked back to those "no boot device detected" messages. After the same thing happened 5 times in a row I just gave up.
     
  12. Buxbaum666

    Buxbaum666 Heterostructured Nanorod oTO Orderite

    Dec 5, 2003
    I'm not very familiar with the F12 menu, I rarely use it. But I could imagine that it scans all connected drives for bootable partitions and exits automatically if none are found.
     
  13. Mr Fish

    Mr Fish ...I Remember...

    Sep 11, 2010
    Yeah, I tried to use it back when the other SSD was still in the computer and it didn't open anything, but now with the new SSD plugged in it did open up and said
    "Please select boot device
    Windows Boot Manager"

    So I guess it didn't work because, again, there was nothing to boot in the first Place.
    I hit enter on it and it just started up windows normally anyway. I guess it'd be useful if you have multiple devices which can boot and you need to choose but since I only got the one (new SSD's windows operating system) I suppose it doesn't matter anymore.

    [edit]

    I put in the USB stick that has Ubuntu on it and it was listed in the boot menu so yeah, that's all it is. A way to choose which device's operating system to start up.

    [edit 2]

    So I downloaded GeForce Experience and started it up and like I suspected it found the graphic card:
    New Bitmap Image.jpg

    If there's nothing else I guess that wraps it up. All I need now is a an HDD/SDD bracket to put my SSD in so it doesn't lie around loose in the case and maybe use windows update. Anything else I should keep in mind for a fresh installation of Windows 8 on a new SSD? Any driver in particular I should update or anything like that?
     
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  14. AskWazzup

    AskWazzup Sonny, I Watched the Vault Bein' Built!

    Aug 21, 2008
    He is talking about how to dedicate more of your system's ram to your integrated gpu (that is to the gpu on your processor) not to your dedicated gpu (aka graphics card). Your dedicated gpu is most likely using gddr5 (which is on the card itself), which is different from the ddr3, or ddr4 ram that your system is using, not that it matters, since you couldn't funnel it to your dedicated gpu anyway.

    Now, i have not tried this, but i kind of remember reading something about igpu dynamically taking the amount of ram it needs, so this exercises might be pointless.
     
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  15. Buxbaum666

    Buxbaum666 Heterostructured Nanorod oTO Orderite

    Dec 5, 2003
    It is definitely pointless if you have a proper graphics card.

    Many modern cases have a dedicated space for SSDs behind the mainboard tray. I doubt yours has these but you might as well check.
    If you don't want to pay money just so you can screw it down somewhere you could pretty much just duct-tape the thing to the inside of the case somewhere. Doesn't make any difference, really. (Don't do that with HDDs, mind)
     
  16. Mr Fish

    Mr Fish ...I Remember...

    Sep 11, 2010
    I already ordered a bracket, it cost like 10 bucks so no biggie really.
     
  17. PlanHex

    PlanHex Useless layabout oTO Moderator Orderite

    Nov 4, 2007
    Don't think you even need to hold an SSD down, my previous case didn't have a spot for one, so mine just laid around on the base of the case. New case has a couple of screwholes at the base so it can lie perfectly still there.
    Doubt it makes a difference, unless you move computer around a lot and the cable falls out or something like that.
     
  18. Buxbaum666

    Buxbaum666 Heterostructured Nanorod oTO Orderite

    Dec 5, 2003
    You should fix it in place somehow, lest you forget about it and move your case or something. Some tape does the trick. You don't want it to break anything important. I've screwed mine into the dedicated space behind the mainboard. It's neatly tucked away and the cables don't dangle around.
     
  19. Mr Fish

    Mr Fish ...I Remember...

    Sep 11, 2010
    Ok, so here's a bit of strangeness.

    So back when I first got the computer I turn it on and the intro scren that says Acer comes up, a little cirle loading and then it went straight into Windows.
    About a few months ago it started differently. First, the acer logo comes on, but it remains there for a few seconds, then the screen goes black and it sounds like the computer boots back up again, this time the acer logo comes on and the little circle thingie spins and it goes into windows again. However. Over time the amount of time it takes for my computer to start and go into Windows changed from a few seconds to like 15 seconds.

    Now then. Like I said previously the new SSD started up the computer damn fast. The problem of the logo popping up, remaining there for a few seconds and then the computer looking like it restarts itself (screen goes black and the computer sounds like it winds down for half a second before starting back up again) has now come back after the last time I started it up.

    So what have I done since then? I've installed 4 things. I installed Avast, a virus program and along with it came Avast SafeZone Browser and Chrome and the final thing I installed was GeForce Experience which I opened up and ran and let it install the latest driver for the graphic card.

    Any idea what could cause this? Is this something I should be worried about?

    Like I said, right after I installed Windows 8:
    Acer logo, half a second.
    Spinning circle for loading, 1.5 seconds.
    Windows log in screen.

    After I installed these things:
    Acer Logo, 5 seconds.
    Restart, 1.5 seconds.
    Acer logo, 1 second.
    Spinning logo, 3 seconds.
    Windows log in screen.


    Okay, I was 'way' off, it's more like 40 seconds. It Went from 5 to 40 seconds. I uninstalled Avast and Chrome to see if it had any impact on anything but it remained the same. I'm terrified now and fear for even using this SSD any further.

    Here's a video of it starting up:


    Something clearly happened. And I'm worried about what it could be and what it could mean.
     
    Last edited: Nov 3, 2016
  20. Buxbaum666

    Buxbaum666 Heterostructured Nanorod oTO Orderite

    Dec 5, 2003
    I know you don't want to hear this but you should really, really, have a professional take a look at your PC. It is very unlikely that someone here will be able to make a remote diagnosis that will turn out to be right and finally solve all your problems. There was probably a reason your system failed before but there's virtually no way to tell what it is remotely. The PSU or something else might be broken, there might be a short-circuit somewhere, or whatever.