Console gaming

Discussion in 'General Gaming and Hardware Forum' started by MutantScalper, Aug 15, 2018.

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  1. MutantScalper

    MutantScalper Dark side in da houssah

    Nov 22, 2009
    I've never really been a console gamer, however lately been thinking about getting a decent console setup with a gaming level tv and maybe a couple of console platforms with games.

    I presume some of you maybe bigger console-heads then I am, what would you say is the biggest reason for going the console way? I know Red Dead Redemption 2 is going to be console only and some other games too, I haven't even played The Last Of Us.
     
  2. a721402

    a721402 Played FPS for decades still suck at it.

    Mar 29, 2016
    Nintendo and their games.
     
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  3. MutantScalper

    MutantScalper Dark side in da houssah

    Nov 22, 2009
    Yea I actually really like Nintendo and have a real soft spot for them for various reasons. They've been around since I was a kid and continue to do some innovative things in a surprisingly stale gaming market.
     
  4. Squadcar

    Squadcar Where'd That 6th Toe Come From?

    Jun 1, 2018
    Consoles are good for couch co-op (if you don't have a easy way to make your PC work for it like me) and console exclusives.
    The exclusives aren't prestigious but you can nearly guarantee a solid game without any retarded monetization methods outside a DLC or two. They're console sellers so they can make less money as long as people buy a console to play it. They get a huge budget without having to make the game sales make all that money back and then a lot more on top of it.
    That's the best thing about exclusives, you get these cinematic art projects that can be kinda fun.

    I didn't play TLOU until I got a PS4 (I got a 360 last generation) and it's a solid 8/10 for me. The gameplay works and levels can be fun but there's nothing special about it. The cinematic linear movie feel to it felt good and it was just well written enough for a video game.
    It's definitely not the Citizen Kane of video games like PS3 kids would lead you to believe.

    EDIT: That being said this generation I'd pick either a Switch or a PS4 depending on your tastes. Xbox has nothing going for it besides Halo and Gears of War (which are two reasons I bought a 360) but they're stale and overcooked now in my opinion.
    I only have one game for my Switch right now and I got a couple of random games for my PS4 like Horizon Zero Dawn, The Last Guardian, Destiny 1, Shadow of the Colossus, Until Dawn, and The Last of Us Remastered
     
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  5. The Dutch Ghost

    The Dutch Ghost Grouchy old man of NMA Moderator

    Jan 11, 2004
    Definitely agree with you on that one and did not agree with the main character deciding to condemn the human species just so that he can play father again.
    I was kind of hoping for an expansion in which you play a bounty hunter hired to hunt down the main two characters.

    Bit annoyed about Nintendo because they have come down very hard on Rom sites recently. Wanting to protect their own IPs is one thing but as a result several sites that also hosted roms of games that can not be found outside Ebay anymore (and going for ridiculous prices sometimes) have shut down.
    And even on online stores they are usually sold at prices they honestly are not worth if it does not give you a physical cartridge.

    My big dilemma still is that I really want to play Metroid Prime 4 when it comes out and it is any good. I couldn't give a damn less for most of Nintendo's other IPs.

    Nintendo machines since the Super Nintendo have had awful 3rd party support, mostly because of the older tech but also because of the non conventional OS Nintendo uses; not to mention their gimmick control systems.
     
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  6. Squadcar

    Squadcar Where'd That 6th Toe Come From?

    Jun 1, 2018
    I could bring up some points about this but I won't do it in a thread with people who likely haven't seen the ending. I agree that his decision was wrong but I don't hate him for it essentially and I have reasons for that.


    I can't embed the image here I guess but https://imgur.com/a/hNVpCyS


    Very true but the Switch seems to be the exception to this now. Or at least from what I've seen.
     
  7. Atomkilla

    Atomkilla Hazel Hegemon oTO Orderite

    Dec 26, 2010
    PS4 has Bloodborne.
    Therefore get PS4.
     
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  8. zegh8578

    zegh8578 Keeper of the trout Orderite

    Mar 11, 2012
    Playstation is for grownups
    It's black

    I guess the best thing about console is that you never really have to check your specs. I always get a bit nervous about my PC, ever since I melted one long ago, burning it to death with high demand games. That was the first PC I bought, and it performed heroically, untill, well, the aforementioned melt (to be precise, the GPU melted. Yes, melted)

    I still like to play games on PC that are unavailable or inconvenient on console, such as strategy or tinkering-games, like Cities Skylines and such, but PS4 has completely taken over action-games for me
     
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  9. Atomkilla

    Atomkilla Hazel Hegemon oTO Orderite

    Dec 26, 2010
    Sad reality is consoles are, whichever way you look at it, cheaper and safer option to go with. PC is still better, but it's more expensive and you are stuck with Windows (in 9/10 cases) which is a crime in itself.
    Of course, PC has, as zegh pointed out, many more games which simply don't work on consoles.

    Make a list of which games interest you and which you would like to play in the future. If the console covers a large chunk of those games, well, get it. Just don't get XBox.

    I should also say that you should NEVER get a console for just one or two titles, unless you of course have a shitload of money to spend and don't care. If RDD2 is the only thing you are looking for, it might not be worth it at the moment.

    Also, The Last of Us is overrated.
     
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  10. TorontRayne

    TorontRayne This ghoul has seen it all
    Staff Member Moderator Orderite

    Apr 1, 2005
    Essentially the main reason to do that these days is Nintendo, but even then they are actually putting out more third party titles worth playing now.

    Red Dead 2
    Catherine Remake
    Persona 5
    REmake 2
    God of War
    Yakuza (all titles after 4)
    Fallout 76
    just kidding on the last one, fuck you @Serifan, you racist.
    All of these games I want to try, so I am buying a PS4. There always must be at least 5 games for me to buy a system. Consoles are good for people that are poor, or don't have the interest in building a computer. The shock with this notion is like someone being shocked you paid to get your oil changed in your car. People have different...quirks; different ideas on what constitutes a maximum amount of effort for FUN. That being said I will be building my first PC soon, after years of simply upgrading pre built PC's, since I was too tired to bother with things like that after work usually. Serifans racist GPU he sent to me from Mad Max Land will likely suffice for the initial build. Soon. But first! I am buying a PS4 Pro because I NEED to play those games. There is nothing coming out on PC for me to play.
     
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  11. SquiglyContiello

    SquiglyContiello It Wandered In From the Wastes

    Jan 3, 2018
    I'd say get it one if you want to play AAA console exclusives, some japanese game with a crap port or Nintendo stuff and if you could handle paying for online.
    Otherwise, you're better off with a PC imo.
    Most of the non cinematic blockbuster console games could be played on PC and it also has backwards compability with almost all consoles.
    If you still want a console get a Switch because they seem to be the only one of them that has games that arent glorified movies and some PS4 exclusives are on PC now.
     
  12. TorontRayne

    TorontRayne This ghoul has seen it all
    Staff Member Moderator Orderite

    Apr 1, 2005
    *raspberry*

    Don't listen to any noob that registered in 2018 for game advice. Period. Especially ones that don't like Fallout 76.
     
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  13. SquiglyContiello

    SquiglyContiello It Wandered In From the Wastes

    Jan 3, 2018
    I love Fallout 76 actually, it takes Fallout into a brave new direction with innovative and hardcore mechancs that stays true to the series fps origins.
     
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  14. Walpknut

    Walpknut This ghoul has seen it all

    Dec 30, 2010
    Yeah Nintendo is the only reason to play on consoles for me. Every action console game looks the exact same to me, specially after E3.

    The only thing that will make me buy a PS4 is if they announced Persona 6 for it.
     
  15. Millim

    Millim What the fuck is this for a shit?!

    Oct 13, 2010
    I have both a PS4 and a Switch and I'm just kind of happy with them (I have other consoles and a laptop I play on, but I don't want to get into that just yet).
    Consoles are good for a casual experience or hardcore JRPGs. I couldn't play Metal Gear Solid 5 on a non Sony console just due to it feeling weird for me. And I wouldn't want to play Shenmue on PC because that's not the experience I want.
    But morrowind on PC is way better than on Xbox and you get the picture.

    Ideally I look at it like this;
    PC is good for Western games
    Consoles are good for Eastern Games.
     
  16. Atomkilla

    Atomkilla Hazel Hegemon oTO Orderite

    Dec 26, 2010

    By that logic XBox is an utter heresy and should be avoided completely.
    And I agree with that 100%.
     
  17. Millim

    Millim What the fuck is this for a shit?!

    Oct 13, 2010
    To their credit, Xbox tried. They had a lot of great games that came from Japan.
    But the Japanese Audience refused them and the American Audience didn't give them a chance. I mean games like Lost Oddysee, Otogi and even Shenmue to a lesser extent (I'm gonna be giving Shenmue a rim job on these threads for the next few weeks).
    Xbox One has sadly become pointless, which is a shame as they could have been something. But that reveals, the lack of exclusives and the cancellation of promising titles has just thrown the console in the dust.
     
  18. Squadcar

    Squadcar Where'd That 6th Toe Come From?

    Jun 1, 2018
    And they've compounded on it with the Windows 10 store. Now you almost don't need a Xbone if you have Windows 10. Can't you even play Gears on the PC now? That was a smart move but it was also a way to discourage ever buying a console, but in the end probably a better decision.
    For the life of me, I cannot figure out why they are focused on Gears and Halo as console sellers. The series are tired, they're being made completely differently and not in a way that attracts modern customers. They need to have titles like TLOU if they want to attract the people that will buy consoles for exclusives. I have no interest in Halo for the Xbone, they were already tiring me of Halo by 4 and I liked Halo a lot.
     
  19. SquiglyContiello

    SquiglyContiello It Wandered In From the Wastes

    Jan 3, 2018
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    I'd say PC is pretty good for Eastern games too thanks to emulators and with some japanese devs showing PC support.
    Some of them could feel a little wierd playing on PC as you said, something about playing Atelier and Ys with a keyboard and mouse doesnt hook as much as playing them with a controller or on a portable device.
     
  20. Atomkilla

    Atomkilla Hazel Hegemon oTO Orderite

    Dec 26, 2010
    Dark Souls port being a massive success despite being a shitty one opened the PC doors for Japanese games, which would otherwise stay console-exclusive for the most part. There were ports before it, obviously, but none sold that well.
    Which is a great thing and a bad thing.

    The line between consoles and PCs is slowly getting more and more blurred - both are essentially computers with their unique OS. AAA games are standardized for consoles, and therefore limit PC's potential.
    The only difference are exclusives - which aren't that exclusive anymore. Many PC games, namely indie ones, make a transition to consoles, and many traditionally console games are coming to PC (said ports, Crash Bandicoot, Gears of War, PSN streaming etc.). Also, because the architecture of consoles and PCs is now closer than ever before, emulators will be easier to build, along with the fact that they have wider audience looking for them, which makes emulator-developing a potentially lucrative, crowdfunded business. Granted, a small business, but with people to fund it.

    The only deviation from this rule are handheld consoles - namely Switch which is quite unique, but also very specific in its catalogue. It's more of a niche console when compared to other platforms, and many of its games won't attract a massive audience. Can be emulated though.

    In the end it all boils down to accessability. Consoles won't die out and will become more and more cheaper, while PCs will probably stagnate more as a platform. That being said, it will never die out and will have a greater catalogue of games than ever before, with ports becoming a bigger and better business opportunity.