Custom Art Repository

Discussion in 'Fallout General Modding' started by Dude101, May 1, 2008.

  1. Dude101

    Dude101 Vault Fossil
    Modder

    Aug 3, 2005
    UPDATE:

    There are now two repositorys

    http://falloutmods.wikia.com/wiki/Template:Wikiportal:Main/Custom_Art_Repository

    http://art.madbrahmin.cz

    end edit.

    Hi, I have been playing with this idea for a while: I have nearly every FO mod ever made, but allot of the custom art is forgotten about, where it could be used in other projects. What I would like to do, is create a list on the WIKI with pics, linking to a DL of the desired FRM; if anything it makes nice eye candy and gives art heavy mods more exposure.

    Where could I host the files? is it a good idea? if no host can be found, a link to the mod would have to do. Permission would be assumed for older mods, but would need to be granted from active mods and modders. This might also encourage custom art to be made by freelancers.
     
  2. Jesterka

    Jesterka Water Chip? Been There, Done That

    Mar 16, 2006
    I've been talking about this (well, more or less) to Wild_qwerty circa year ago, but any improvements never happened. I still might 'host' that art on madbrahmin.cz or towerofcreation.com (they both have the same space source).
     
  3. Dude101

    Dude101 Vault Fossil
    Modder

    Aug 3, 2005
    Cool, great minds think alike and all that. I might start this off over the week end. How will I go about uploading them? will I have to send you the files, or can I have access to your FTP and steal / delete everything?
     
  4. Wild_qwerty

    Wild_qwerty Sonny, I Watched the Vault Bein' Built!

    Feb 2, 2004
    I have a few old pieces of art that could be useful for this.

    What the hosting like on the modding wiki?

    *Edit*

    Maybe nma could revamp the download section. If the FRMs section was organised with a gallery of the FRMs it would help a lot.
     
  5. Lexx

    Lexx Lived Through the Heat Death
    Moderator

    Apr 24, 2005
    Would be cool to have an archiv or something like that.

    I think, the problem on the NMA file section is, that the most files are on atomic games and you have to wait 3 to 6 minutes and more to download them.
     
  6. Jesterka

    Jesterka Water Chip? Been There, Done That

    Mar 16, 2006
    NMA download section is shit, no doubt about that. If anything, hosting under The Vault is far more suitable. :D
     
  7. Karel

    Karel Still Mildly Glowing

    Jan 21, 2006
    I would recommend an easily browsable web interface _and_ ftp access.
     
  8. Brother None

    Brother None This ghoul has seen it all
    Staff Member Admin Orderite

    Apr 3, 2003
    Yes.

    You're welcome to use our files section as much as you like, but our hands are tied to Atomic Gamer, our host. Can't really help that, we don't have the free bandwidth lying about to fix it otherwise.

    However, depending on the size of the files we're talking of here, and since not a lot of people would be actively downloading them, we might be able to set up something else, make a subdomain for NMA (like modguide), install a good and easy-to-use file system/CMS on it and give it to you to use.

    It's not impossible.
     
  9. Kanhef

    Kanhef Vault Dweller

    Sep 2, 2007
    Good idea. Just make sure you can keep attribution to the artist/mod with each image.
     
  10. Dude101

    Dude101 Vault Fossil
    Modder

    Aug 3, 2005
    My very own hosted NMA site! Muhaha, I will defer to those in the know on which solution is best. I have no idea about hosting, but the wiki cannot host anything but images. I have seen people share frms in a lossless gif format (I think) so maybe that is the way to go. Art guys?

    edit

    Using my super cool wiki admin, I found a file upload section. I will have a look and see if we can use it.

    edit

    Nope: ".frm" is an unwanted file type"
     
  11. Forgotten Knight

    Forgotten Knight Still Mildly Glowing
    Modder

    May 24, 2006
    How about: picture samples linked to frms in .rar or .zip format... :mrgreen:
     
  12. Jesterka

    Jesterka Water Chip? Been There, Done That

    Mar 16, 2006
    Maybe I'll really try something on Madbrahmin (in English of course). It's a bit nutty hit, but that's probably why I like it.

    Also, first we should set up some rules like how the hell sort that stuff (by packs, by art types - tiles, walls, scenery...). Plus setting shitty (low-class modelling, poor conversion) stuff aside is probably a must. The same should be said about the JPG/PNG/GIF views, readme/info files and some tutorials in some near place.
     
  13. Jesterka

    Jesterka Water Chip? Been There, Done That

    Mar 16, 2006
  14. Dude101

    Dude101 Vault Fossil
    Modder

    Aug 3, 2005
    Awesome! but like you said earlier

    It should be broken down into many sub-categories, so art previews can be seen immediately (none of this click to see BS), without to much of a load time. Unless it is better to organise it via the wiki and link to the DL on MB.
     
  15. Continuum

    Continuum Vault Fossil

    Nov 8, 2006
    Who's going to judge it? :mrgreen:
     
  16. Karel

    Karel Still Mildly Glowing

    Jan 21, 2006
    Just give me some time (exams), I can set something up either at madbrahmin.cz or towerofcreation.com (or any other "cool" domain name that is free, or at any other server I get access to).

    I recommend using "Web 2.0" tags (e.g. an uploaded art gets main tags "scenery", "tree", and the user adds a custom one "pine"). Drupal can do that (plus a lot more like comments, user rating etc.)
     
  17. Lexx

    Lexx Lived Through the Heat Death
    Moderator

    Apr 24, 2005
    Any news on this?
     
  18. Brother None

    Brother None This ghoul has seen it all
    Staff Member Admin Orderite

    Apr 3, 2003
    I suggest you guys get a proposal for a hosted website together. Just toss together some details; what kind of database software/CMS will you be using, how much space do you need, who'll manage it etc. and then we can pitch it to Silencer, and the admins can discuss it with our host's techies.

    It's certainly possible and we're willing to help you out, but you guys need to decide what exactly you need beforehand.
     
  19. Karel

    Karel Still Mildly Glowing

    Jan 21, 2006
    OK, so some progress...

    I've set-up a simple "CMS" using Drupal on one domain, it requires MySQL(i) 5.x database + PHP (5), the repository shouldn't take more than 1GB. It can rune at my server or be later transferred to other webhosting if the site gets too busy.

    The idea is to have browsable content in multiple categories, with each item ("page") containing:

    a) description of the file
    b) screenshot
    c) attachment with the frm
    d) several tags for sorting (art type - critter, scenery, door, wall, tile etc, license, free tags added by users)
    e) comments and rating

    (all of that is finished).

    I have several issues that need to be solved:
    1) better sorting of content, e.g. lists of tags like "body type" (robot, human, etc.), "scenery type" (nature, technology,...) - this is a big issue as it can't be change with too many contributions. Any suggestions for a good sets of "tags" to sort content?
    2) licensing issues - every item must have a clearly specified license under which it can be used (I believe Creative Commons variants should work), but I'm not sure about others
    3) attachment guidelines - should it contain only an frm, or readme, screenshot, sample script and prototype?
    4) anonymous uploads - should they be allowed?
     
  20. Aaron

    Aaron It Wandered In From the Wastes

    Jun 8, 2006
    any news? this could be really useful, if it ever gets done.