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Discussion in 'General Gaming and Hardware Forum' started by Xellos, Jan 12, 2013.
I am honestly wondering what sort of progress they're making.
Yesterday I finished Technobabylon.
Cyberpunk is not a bad genre, but it's that thing. Seen one, seen them all.
Will they be able to bring a fresh air to the genre? I doubt that much.
That's why I would prefer a new setting. Particularly I find the idea of D&D races very attractive in a modern setting.
But what is done is done and despite my complaints, I still like the genre. I have to play Deus EX: MD yet.
I'm kind of stunned by this argument because fantasy has like 1000x times the number of games which cyberpunk has and The Witcher 3 was one of the best games of all time. If they were to make nothing BUT cyberpunk games by comparison to fantasy for the next 3 years, it'd not be a drop in the bucket to me.
I admit, though, my desire from Cyberpunk 2077 is not a cyberpunk game. It is that I want a MATURE cyberpunk game.
Something written for adults with politics, sex, strong characters, and mature writing vs. something like Syndicate 2012 where the goal is shooting.
medieval Fantasy is way WAY worse for me.
I love Mass Effect, ask me if I played any Dragon Age?
Same thing is New Vegas. Did I play Pillars or Tyranny? No, and I do not feel like it.
I droped Dark Souls. Divinity is mega acclaimed, I can not even cheer myself up to watch a video of the series. I bought Shadow of Mordor, I doubt that someday I'll play.
I also did not play the Witcher trilogy.
When I talked about the D&D races in a modern setting, I meant just that. It could even be cyberpunk. The dwarves could be captains of industry, in control of all oil and minerals. The halflings are the intellectual elite and scientists. And so it goes.
I do not know if you're going to have this, but it's sure as the heat of the fire that this game will have a big conspiracy in the plot. Because Cyberpunk, right?
So shadowrun then...
I did not know that one. and I here thinking I was being original, haha. Do you recommend any games in the series?
Well, that would be Shadowrun and I'm not sure if you're being serious or not.
Mind you. Bethesda did D&D races in Steampunk too. I was always disappointed they let Arcanum die.
Well, Deus Ex is the conspiracy cyberpunk game but conspiracies aren't actually a 100% fundamental part of cyberpunk. Cyberpunk 2020 (the tabletop game 2077 is based on) was actually fairly conspiracy free.
The premise of 2020 was you were a citizen of Night City (San Fransisco) which was the most borged up city in America and the center for the equivalent of Silicon Valley before the 90s made it a household name. The city was surrounded by roving bandit gangs (Mad Max), had massive poverty that was verging on class warfare (Gibson), had cyborgs routinely go psychotic (Bubblegum crisis/Bladerunner), and an extensive Chinese culture. Generally, you were a mercenary working for one of the corporations with the goal of making money.
Bethesda doing D&D races in Steampunk? Arcanum wasn't Bethesda (neither developer nor publisher), and while the dwemer in TES are kinda steampunkish, it's not really D&D in Steampunk...
Erm... Troika did Arcanum. Bethesda wasn't even involved or affiliated with Troika (unless one counts how Bethesda grabbed the Fallout franchise before Troika could make a bid for it).
The closest they got to D&D was the races for the Elder Scrolls games and that's more in line with Tolkien fantasy races (no dwarves at least). As for Steampunk... nothing Bethesda's done definitively comes to mind (as Hass pointed out, the Dwemer aren't completely steampunkish).
This reminds me that I need to finish Shadowrun Returns one of these days.
Eh, weird, I thought they owned the rights to Arcanum.
*has no idea how much hate he's unleashed with said mistake*
Conspiracies are the background, players could participate from time to time.
Well, yeah... 'member, DON'T GIVE BETHESDA IDEAS!
A polish magazine said they are still in production and should have a release date announced in 2018.
No, CEO said there won't be any announcements in 2017 and he won't comment on 2018.
Now that I think about it. IIRC it was announced in the past that Cyberpunk 2077 would have multiplayer. If they remove custom-made main characters, how will they implement any multiplayer mode?
Will the playable characters all look the same, or will players play with pre-made characters, or will the multiplayer get scraped too?
IIRC (once more) the grant CDPR got from the government said one of the features would have to be a multiplayer feature, so if they remove it, does that mean that they will lose the governmental grant?
Nah, they won't do it, and so customization will still be, at least for MP part. I only hope multiplayer here is not just for shits and giggles and could add some roleplaying possibilities or even run custom campaigns.
It will always be online, which I suspect like with Hitman 5 is so they can upload new games regularly and keep people playing.
Also, Mike Pondsmith has some stuff to say: