End of Free speech in Europe or just hype?

Discussion in 'General Discussion Forum' started by Crni Vuk, Mar 30, 2019.

  1. Walpknut

    Walpknut This ghoul has seen it all

    Dec 30, 2010
    The existence of Social manipulation is too post modern to accept I guess.
     
  2. TheHouseAlwaysWins

    TheHouseAlwaysWins Still Mildly Glowing

    Nov 28, 2015

    You said it yourself, it's not ironic, it's absurd. The joke still heavily relates to either pushing out negative stereotypes or doing shit that's considered taboo.



    You'll understand when tagged turf near you irl with razor bladed posters is the least racist graffiti.

    http://www.news9.com/story/40212786...painted-on-okla-democratic-party-headquarters

    https://imgur.com/a/Ce8Embq
     
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  3. Crni Vuk

    Crni Vuk M4A3 Oldfag oTO Orderite

    Nov 25, 2008
    Ok, I will be stupid one, what was the point of the joke anyway?
     
  4. TheGM

    TheGM The voice of reason

    Aug 19, 2008
    IN CURRENT YEAR JOKES NEED POINTS.
     
  5. AureliusofPhoenix

    AureliusofPhoenix Centurion

    Jun 25, 2018
    Being American I can’t really say much, but I do think that Article 13 is the pinnacle of stupid bullshit. As for the main question... my hopes aren’t high either, but understand that I’m an outsider looking in. I look at Europe with its heavy gun control (not to start that argument) and shit like this and go “what the fuck are you people doing over there? Be a chaotic, schizophrenic mess ruined by the 2 party system like us!”

    To get to the point, I don’t think it’s the end of free speech because I don’t think the citizens of Europe will take this lying down. I like to hope that the masters of rioting revolution (the French) at least will protest. But again, I’m not there. I’m not experiencing what you guys are. I hope for the best for my friends across the pond, regardless. Best of luck, amici.
     
  6. BigGuyCIA

    BigGuyCIA Vault Dweller

    Oct 26, 2016
    There doesn't need to be a point other than making someone laugh. Someone is going to find humor in the absurdity of a pug watching Hitler videos and seig heiling on command, and likely someone else will be offended by it.

    The entire point of jokes, and by extension comedy, is to gleefully push and step over the boundaries. Jimmy Carr's mosquito joke probably rubbed a lot of people the wrong way.
     
  7. Walpknut

    Walpknut This ghoul has seen it all

    Dec 30, 2010
    I don't even get how they are gonna be able to even enforce that dumb law.
     
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  8. Crni Vuk

    Crni Vuk M4A3 Oldfag oTO Orderite

    Nov 25, 2008
    But what exactly made it fun?

    Just to make this clear so no one gets the wrong idea, I do not think the guy deserved any punishment for it.
     
  9. AureliusofPhoenix

    AureliusofPhoenix Centurion

    Jun 25, 2018
    It’s one of those things that you can’t really pin down. Why is Chris Porter being a very angry man hilarious to me and abrasive to others?
    Humor is something that really depends on the person, and there’s nothing in the world, no matter who absurd, that someone won’t find funny. I could honestly care less about the dog seig heiling, because despite being a quarter Jewish I see it for what it is; a joke. It wasn’t meant in a malicious way, and people can complain about “normalization of bigotry” and shit all they want, end of the day people have been telling jokes since speech was a thing. You’re not gonna stop it, as much as it may upset the control freaks out there. Best thing to do is just avoid what offends you.
     
  10. Crni Vuk

    Crni Vuk M4A3 Oldfag oTO Orderite

    Nov 25, 2008
    I think you're missunderstanding me. I just want someone to explain the joke.
     
  11. AureliusofPhoenix

    AureliusofPhoenix Centurion

    Jun 25, 2018
    Short version is that Hitler is obviously offensive, so going against the societal taboo of treating Nazism with disgust and avoidance is humorous to some based wholly on the fact that it’s “wrong”. It’s funny because it’s ridiculous, and defies all that is “proper”.
     
  12. Crni Vuk

    Crni Vuk M4A3 Oldfag oTO Orderite

    Nov 25, 2008
    And why is Hitler offensive?
     
  13. AureliusofPhoenix

    AureliusofPhoenix Centurion

    Jun 25, 2018
    Cause he murdered people, is the general consensus. I personally don’t really find anything except rape offensive; you want my opinion, I’m of the mind that if you can joke about serial killers you can joke about Hitler and Nazis. Unless someone specifically says that they’re triggered by something, I tend not to censor myself because I see it as pointless. If someone doesn’t like me, they can tell me or fuck off. But if someone has had legitimate past experiences that I’ve brought to the surface, then I’ll censor myself in an attempt to lessen the blow.

    TL;DR: Hitler is seen as offensive because he was a delusional mass murderer, and I’ll only censor myself if someone tells me that they’re offended by something. Otherwise how am I supposed to know unless I walk on eggshells? I’d never ask anyone to do that for me, so why should they ask it of me?
     
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  14. BigGuyCIA

    BigGuyCIA Vault Dweller

    Oct 26, 2016
    His hairstyle was the biggest crime against humanity.
     
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  15. AureliusofPhoenix

    AureliusofPhoenix Centurion

    Jun 25, 2018
    That Chaplin moustache was the stuff of nightmares.
     
  16. Hassknecht

    Hassknecht I guess you're through, huh? Admin Orderite

    Aug 16, 2010
    Nazis are generally considered kinda bad people, and their acts as atrocious as it gets. The implication of a pug of all animals supporting them is such a stark contrast between what classic nazi propaganda proclaimed and what this pug really is that it becomes very funny.
     
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  17. Atomkilla

    Atomkilla Hazel Hegemon oTO Orderite

    Dec 26, 2010
    Plot twist: the pug was a Stalinist all along.
     
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  18. Crni Vuk

    Crni Vuk M4A3 Oldfag oTO Orderite

    Nov 25, 2008
     
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  19. valcik

    valcik So Old I'm Losing Radiation Signs

    Dec 20, 2008
    It's about time for Germany to adapt article 13 and kick memelords in the balls.
     
  20. R.Graves

    R.Graves Confirmed Retard

    Apr 21, 2016
    Was still arrested an drug through the courts for literally longer than the Nuremberg trials.