Fallout 2 mod Fallout 2 Restoration Project Discussion (ideas/suggestions)

Discussion in 'Fallout General Modding' started by killap, Mar 22, 2006.

  1. .Pixote.

    .Pixote. Venerable Relic of the Wastes
    Modder

    Sep 14, 2009
    This is the result of a little test I'm conducting - the normal blood has been changed to use the red energy flag, that means the blood can be semi-transparent. It will appear brighter on those darker areas (the road), and lighter on surfaces like the footpath. Is it worth adding to the next release of the RP? Or will we stick with the original dark red blood.

     
  2. Surf Solar

    Surf Solar So Old I'm Losing Radiation Signs

    Aug 20, 2009
    Original darker blood looks better in my humble opinion.
     
  3. Izual

    Izual Pipe rifle & chopsticks

    Sep 18, 2009
    Will this half-transparent blood help to pick up items? That is, if your mod that puts the items under the blood isn't in next RP version.
     
  4. tiagop

    tiagop First time out of the vault

    May 24, 2006
    .Pixote. I think the blood in the footpath is way to transparent but I like the idea. :D
     
  5. Chris Parks

    Chris Parks Vault Senior Citizen

    Jun 10, 2006
    Definitely stick with the original. Blood when leaving the body clots and tends to darken. It isn't transparent. The original is more realistic.
     
  6. Dravean

    Dravean Where'd That 6th Toe Come From?

    Mar 6, 2005
    Hmm. I gotta agree with the others and say I prefer the original.
     
  7. Nark

    Nark Sonny, I Watched the Vault Bein' Built!

    Dec 6, 2008
    I like the original blood better, for reasons stated above. I do want your blood-underlapping mod to be in the RP though Pixote. Items being hid behind blood was always stupid.
     
  8. .Pixote.

    .Pixote. Venerable Relic of the Wastes
    Modder

    Sep 14, 2009
    It was just a test...and don't worry the items behind the blood pool has be fixed. :wink:
     
  9. Dravean

    Dravean Where'd That 6th Toe Come From?

    Mar 6, 2005
    That's great news.
     
  10. tiagop

    tiagop First time out of the vault

    May 24, 2006
    That's some great news, I always found that annoying. :clap:
     
  11. .Pixote.

    .Pixote. Venerable Relic of the Wastes
    Modder

    Sep 14, 2009
    How about some highlights in the blood pool...the light hits the edges, and reflects the light back, blah, blah...it does resemble a liquid more.

     
  12. Chris Parks

    Chris Parks Vault Senior Citizen

    Jun 10, 2006
    Yep - I like that. :D
     
  13. Hkelukka

    Hkelukka First time out of the vault

    Jan 16, 2011
    This looks best thus far.
     
  14. Nark

    Nark Sonny, I Watched the Vault Bein' Built!

    Dec 6, 2008
    Love it Pixote!

    By the way, has anyone thought about maybe making the Molotov Cocktail a Fire damage weapon (rather than have them use the explosive damage type)? I mean, frag grenades can be found at pretty much the same time and they're already better, maybe give Molotovs a boost by making them better against different armors (ones with less fire resistance/threshold, for example). It would also make Pyromaniac more useful.

    Real petrol bombs and molotov cocktails throw out fiery explosions, not your average kaboom, it usually litters the area with flames.

    http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Molotov_cocktail_(Fallout_2)

    (As you can see, it uses the "Explosive" damage type).
     
  15. LionXavier

    LionXavier It Wandered In From the Wastes

    Dec 29, 2007
    It looks splendid, Pixote. I say go ahead with this.

    I second the motion, but only if there's not a major inconvenience for the weapon in doing so (the fact that fire resistance is almost always higher than explosion res. in most critters comes to mind). Throwing weapons are bad enough as they already are.

    I find this pretty interesting. And also, about this quest, I think that it would benefit from having an alternative requisite for finding the mecant's deception apart from PE 8, like science 60-80%. Not all characters have that hight PE that early in the game, and in my opinion that would be a good alternative so that more different types of characters have the chance of finding it. And also, it would even fit with Fallout's usual quest design philosophy (if one read Per's Nearly Ultimate Fallout 1/2 guide, he'd notice lots of occasions in which it's said: "if you have this Ability score this high, OR that skill this high"... etc)

    By the way, speaking of new quests introduced with the Restoration Proyect, I'd like to share with you an alternative "evil" solution to the grave robber quest at The Abbey that occurred to me last time I played. Not as evil as killing the burglar (which I suppose is considered evil, haven't tested it) but evil in its own way nonetheless. It would consist in the following: if your character has the Gravedigger karma title himself, he could simply teach the robber to do it without leaving a trace. You know, "Give a man a fish, feed him for a day..." and all that :mrgreen:

    Regards.

    -Edit: typo-
     
  16. Nark

    Nark Sonny, I Watched the Vault Bein' Built!

    Dec 6, 2008
    You have a point, I suppose they could up the damage a bit as well anyway. It's not like anybody used them before, if they became Fire Damage weapons then Pyromaniac would help buff them a bit.

    Although I am completely aware of the RP being for "how Fallout 2 was meant to be", I still think a few (optional install?) weapon rebalances should come into place so there's not as many left behind Fallout 1 weapons which nobody uses (not like it was even useful in Fo1 in the first place). Would help for the overall flow of the game.
     
  17. LionXavier

    LionXavier It Wandered In From the Wastes

    Dec 29, 2007
    It costs 5 AP to throw; it deals an average of 10 hp of damage; it won't benefit from any bonus rate of fire/bonus hth attacks or slayer/sniper like perk. No wonder why nobody uses them, they worth more as a trading item than as a weapon (just like throwing knives, btw) :roll:. The sad part is that the Pyromaniac perk only gives fire-based weapons a mediocre bonus of 5 hp damage (according to Per's guide), which means almost no improvenet into making it a desirable weapon choice. Anyway yes, it always bothered me that molotov cocktails belonged to the explosive type instead of fire.

    Totally agree with you.
     
  18. .Pixote.

    .Pixote. Venerable Relic of the Wastes
    Modder

    Sep 14, 2009
    Molotov Cocktail - 8/20 damage. Range 12. AP - 5...this weapon is only really useful in the first few towns, as soon as you get access to grenades it not worth the effort. I do agree it might need tweaking, Haenlomal is the one to contact, Killap is using his Yet Another Ammo Mod.

    As for the Pyromaniac perk...it should be a 50% increase in damage IMO. :twisted:
     
  19. Aracnoid

    Aracnoid First time out of the vault

    May 13, 2010
    i have a suggestion or request or whatever.
    unfortunately there is no big-gunner human companion in game. there is marcus but i don't like travel with a mutant(nma?).
    i was hoping for one of e.p.a. companions can handle big guns but none of them have this skill as a primary skill.
    i want one of the the e.p.a. npc's(probably cat jules) use big guns.
    is it possible for upcoming uptades of restolarion project?

    thanks for probable answers and sorry for bad english.
     
  20. Lexx

    Lexx Background Radiant
    Moderator

    Apr 24, 2005
    @Blood above: Maybe it would look better if the original blood scenery graphic would be made a tad darker, so that the transparent effect doesn't make it look too bright.