Favorite and least favortie retcons?

Discussion in 'Fallout 4' started by Ben Soto, Jul 30, 2017.

  1. CerberusGate

    CerberusGate I should save my game in a whole new slot

    Jun 6, 2016
    Except the problem is the untouched and fully functional X-01 in the display area in Nuka World and other batches of functioning X-01 PA in previously unexplored locations in the game. Almost like Enclave PA existed prior to its canonical creation in-universe.

    Hence, the confusion on wikis and other places of discussion that have to bend over backwards to justify their existence, claiming that either the pre-War Enclave already built working prototypes (plausible though discreditable at times while allowing one to be public-ally view-able for some reason), the Enclave had a presence in Boston and simply left suits lying around (plausible but there are plenty of ways to discredit them too), or Bethesda's randomized loot system was not properly tested to prevent such lore inconsistencies.
     
  2. R.Graves

    R.Graves Confirmed Retard

    Apr 21, 2016
    Why not? Its the other side of the continent. Easily their most acceptable retcon. I hate how ghouls are completely ruined. At this point ghoulism is just a minor skin condition that grantd immortality.
     
  3. Cobra Commander

    Cobra Commander Still Mildly Glowing

    Dec 6, 2016
    I remember a AWESOME retcon in F4 that I truly love it. Assaultrons.

    I know a lot of people do not like it, but I do. If only Bethesda could be creative like that with the whole game.
     
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  4. ThatZenoGuy

    ThatZenoGuy Residential Zealous Evolved Nano Organism

    Nov 8, 2016
    I cannot think of a retcon in any franchise I like.

    Almost all of them revolve around cutting out imporant parts of the franchise, or simply wanking shit to be stupider.
     
  5. ThatZenoGuy

    ThatZenoGuy Residential Zealous Evolved Nano Organism

    Nov 8, 2016
    An X-01 suit of power armour is on display at a fuckng theme park...Its even fully functional.
     
  6. R.Graves

    R.Graves Confirmed Retard

    Apr 21, 2016
    How are assaultrons a retcon again?
     
  7. Cobra Commander

    Cobra Commander Still Mildly Glowing

    Dec 6, 2016
    Only no. No one has ever talked about this before.
     
  8. Risewild

    Risewild Sonny, I Watched the Vault Bein' Built!
    Modder Orderite

    Jun 14, 2014
    Like others mentioned, this is the problem, they even retcon their own games on the same game...
    http://fallout.gamepedia.com/Quantum_X-01_power_armor
     
  9. Ben Soto

    Ben Soto Professional Salt Shaker

    Jul 7, 2014
    I think that it should've been uniquely modeled Power Armor altogether instead of X-01. Make it a more impressive reward (though I can't remember what you have to do to get it, so maybe you'd also have to make it harder to get.)

    They didn't exist before Fallout 4.

    That's kind of the idea behind an additive retcon.
     
  10. R.Graves

    R.Graves Confirmed Retard

    Apr 21, 2016
    So? Wannningos didn't exist before fallout 2? A retcon is basically an explained contradiction. The assaultron only contradicts the technological developmemt of the prewar world other than that...
     
  11. Cobra Commander

    Cobra Commander Still Mildly Glowing

    Dec 6, 2016
    So that would be......
     
  12. R.Graves

    R.Graves Confirmed Retard

    Apr 21, 2016
    A contradiction not a retcon.
     
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  13. Prone Squanderer

    Prone Squanderer A bit of a Sillius Soddus.

    Jan 3, 2016
    I personally don't like them, I don't think they fit given the design of every other robotic. But they're not absolutely everywhere.

    A couple more that I don't like is how AI is now widely self-aware, such as Codsworth and that man-hating assaultron vendor. Or the fact there's so many ghouls and most of them still have a full head of hair.
     
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  14. R.Graves

    R.Graves Confirmed Retard

    Apr 21, 2016
    Ghoulism is basically a skin condition at this point. Also you become superhuman and live forever. So far removed from what ghouls were supposed to be... And were.
     
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  15. ThatZenoGuy

    ThatZenoGuy Residential Zealous Evolved Nano Organism

    Nov 8, 2016
    Assaultrons contradict bipedal pre-war robots, basically retconning prewar tech.

    Bipedal prewar machines, are hulking giant robots.
     
  16. Black Angel

    Black Angel Grand Inquisitor of the Ordo Hereticus

    Mar 21, 2016
    So basically they're contradicting the existence of even Liberty Prime? No surprise, there.
     
  17. ThatZenoGuy

    ThatZenoGuy Residential Zealous Evolved Nano Organism

    Nov 8, 2016
    I think liberty prime alone is a pretty silly design.

    We see bipedal machines, much smaller ones, and they're much bulkier.

    Liberty prime is too strong physically for its shape, which pisses me off.
     
  18. Prone Squanderer

    Prone Squanderer A bit of a Sillius Soddus.

    Jan 3, 2016
    Liberty Prime...funny how the Pre-War world couldn't get it to work and the Brotherhood couldn't get it to work...until of course the Lone Wanderer says "We need it now!" What, did Rothschild just give it a kick and suddenly it just kicked to life? Did he just happen to figure out what the exact problem was?
     
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  19. Risewild

    Risewild Sonny, I Watched the Vault Bein' Built!
    Modder Orderite

    Jun 14, 2014
    They say it was Dr Li who helped them find the problem... So one scientist in a post apocalyptic world with no "science" schools and pretty much no schools at all managed to figure out the problem that a full team of pre-war scientists who happened to have designed and constructed the damn robot couldn't figure.

    That is another question, where did James and all of the scientists in FO3 came from? Where did they learn to become such amazing scientists? They weren't BoS and they weren't taught in Rivet City either since Dr Li comes to Rivet City after James leave the Project Purity. So where on the Capital Wasteland can people become super genius scientists?
     
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  20. ThatZenoGuy

    ThatZenoGuy Residential Zealous Evolved Nano Organism

    Nov 8, 2016
    Pre war basically mastered fusion tech, no fucking way postwar people other than the ENCLAVE could solve Liberty's power issues.
     
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