Games that allow the player to murder children/minors?

Discussion in 'General Gaming and Hardware Forum' started by R.Graves, Feb 19, 2018.

Should this be a taboo in gaming?

  1. Yes

    7.7%
  2. No

    92.3%
  1. TerminallyChill

    TerminallyChill Be excellent to each other.

    Feb 16, 2018
    If you can admit this, why do you still feel the need to argue with people? The only reason that Fallout includes penalties for killing children is because it reflects actual human behavior. You can think it's as retarded as you want, but you can't change the fact that it's a mainstream belief.

    Wow, and here I thought I was edgy being a Bojack fan.
     
  2. Walpknut

    Walpknut This ghoul has seen it all

    Dec 30, 2010
    Ow' the edge.
     
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  3. nkchan16

    nkchan16 Look, Ma! Two Heads!

    Jul 27, 2016
    Edgy? What the fuck that's supposed to mean?
     
  4. TerminallyChill

    TerminallyChill Be excellent to each other.

    Feb 16, 2018
    Better be careful Walpknut, you're going to get put on nkchan16's ignore list.
     
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  5. Prone Squanderer

    Prone Squanderer A bit of a Sillius Soddus.

    Jan 3, 2016
    Ftfy.
     
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  6. nkchan16

    nkchan16 Look, Ma! Two Heads!

    Jul 27, 2016
    1. Because those people annoy me. 2. Not all humans, only the "mainstream", the conformist crowds, I mean. 3. Isn't this the thread we talk about why it's retarded in games?
     
  7. Walpknut

    Walpknut This ghoul has seen it all

    Dec 30, 2010
    "The conformist crowds", is this a parody account?
     
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  8. TerminallyChill

    TerminallyChill Be excellent to each other.

    Feb 16, 2018
    He should probably avoid sitting next to anyone on the metro for a while.

    So if I'm understanding this correctly, the reason you disagree with Fallout's treatment of child killing is because you think its fictional societies should also hold your same fringe beliefs. In my experience, that is a pretty unrealistic expectation to have of anything.
     
  9. nkchan16

    nkchan16 Look, Ma! Two Heads!

    Jul 27, 2016
    It's not really a belief of a fictional society, not even close. As I've said before, that society had already killed millions of children and largely doesn't care much of children as clearly seen in the game. It just the developer's "sacred children" view reflected in the game. They clearly never thought that it would annoy some people. Just like newly parents who think everyone would love their brats as much as they do. Actually, the more you think about that, the more you realize that Fallout could very well be made by Bethesda. Same shit really.
     
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  10. Walpknut

    Walpknut This ghoul has seen it all

    Dec 30, 2010
    Man, I hope this guy doesn't have access to guns.
     
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  11. TerminallyChill

    TerminallyChill Be excellent to each other.

    Feb 16, 2018
    Tim Cain has actually talked about why he included the feature, and it's because he wanted there to be realistic consequences for players' actions. So in a way, I guess you could say he did it intentionally to annoy people like you. My recommendation? Mod the game or go play something else. There are plenty of titles out there for you to kill things without repercussions.
     
  12. nkchan16

    nkchan16 Look, Ma! Two Heads!

    Jul 27, 2016
    I'm guessing you're the shitposter of NMA?
     
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  13. TerminallyChill

    TerminallyChill Be excellent to each other.

    Feb 16, 2018
    You must be new here.
     
  14. Walpknut

    Walpknut This ghoul has seen it all

    Dec 30, 2010
    Just pointing out how you sound like a school shooter.
     
  15. TerminallyChill

    TerminallyChill Be excellent to each other.

    Feb 16, 2018
    At first I thought you were exaggerating, but damn.

     
  16. Atomkilla

    Atomkilla Hazel Hegemon oTO Orderite

    Dec 26, 2010
    Damn Walp, sorry for ever calling you edgy, this boy takes the cake.
     
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  17. 5545Trey

    5545Trey Underground Deviant

    Jun 25, 2014
    That isn't a sound argument. Hitler had a terrible childhood, but he didn't grow up in a post-nuclear-apocalyptic society similar to Fallout's setting. Also, that's just one child in the world, out of millions upon millions of other children in the world. It should be obvious that if a nuclear war were to happen, similar to what happened during the Great War, the world population would have a stark decline, which means the minor population would also suffer from this. Yes, a previous generation of children (who grew up as adults, by the way) caused the destruction of human civilization, but we use history to reflect on atrocities like this, and try to do every we can so we repeat them. The future generations are different, because they're already reestablishing civilization. We see this in New Vegas, Fallout 2, and even in Fallout 1 in certain cases.

    There is a difference between killing a child and an adult, seeing how killing the former clearly promotes a larger reaction. Also, children are inherently more vulnerable than adults, so it's less likely you'll get much resistance from that child.
     
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  18. Eshanas

    Eshanas Where'd That 6th Toe Come From?

    Jul 6, 2016
    Compromise: maybe killing children of some groups shouldn't occur a blanket penalty, is what Nkchan means. If you kill, say, ghoul children, maybe Vault city won't care; or if you kill 'wasteland' children the Enclave wouldn't care, of if you killed pickpockin' little shits, raiders might not care. I think that might had been too complex at the time, however, and such 'detail' might had been taken in the wrong way. Fallout already turned heads for its violence and content at the high end of the Media Moral outcry.
     
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  19. TerminallyChill

    TerminallyChill Be excellent to each other.

    Feb 16, 2018
    Wait. Is that what this is about? That's not the position I was at all interpreting. I would totally agree with this 'disconnected wasteland' idea. I was under the impression that nkchan16 was entirely against the notion of increased penalties for killing children because they shouldn't be treated as special.
     
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  20. Eshanas

    Eshanas Where'd That 6th Toe Come From?

    Jul 6, 2016
    *Might* be. Some of the comments like the metro one are odd.
     
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