General Discussion Thread of DOOM

Discussion in 'General Discussion Forum' started by TorontRayne, Jan 3, 2015.

  1. Atomkilla

    Atomkilla Hazel Hegemon oTO Orderite

    Dec 26, 2010

    I have no idea what sort of meme-crap and shitposting you're referring to. I have seen little of it. Besides, even if I did, it's a forum, that's a normal thing to occur to a certain extent. Beyond it, it is removed. Check The Vats and tell me mods aren't clearing out spam and shitposts.
    The rest of the stuff you mention isn't wrong either, according to forum rules. I don't condone racism, but it's bound to happen on every forum with this many people of various beliefs and opinions. Users have the right to be assholes as long as it isn't against the rules. Free speech and all that shit.
    Nobody gives a flying fuck about drugs or whatever being discussed. Discussion is never illegal, even in real life (few fucked up countries aside). Nobody is selling shit here, nobody is distributing child porn, or even some "innocent" stuff like pirated material, so your statement makes zero sense. I can say right here and right now that all children should be given heroin at birth and I have 100% right to say it. I don't believe in it, I don't promote it actively (or for real), but I can say it (if just to troll people). Same goes even if I believed in it. It's not against the rules. Nor is it against the actual law in most of the countries, which you mention for whatever reason.
    If that's too much for you to handle, then sorry, the issue is with you, not with the rest of the forum.


    Sander was wrong because he often banned people because they didn't fit his worldview or agree with him, and not because they broke the rules. And rules exist to be neutral and impartial, and administrators should be enforcers of those rules. If they cannot do that job properly, they are not fit for it, and in my opinion (and of many other people here), Sander crossed that line many times.
    He's not active anymore, so it doesn't matter much, but I don't want to see him come back. As a regular poster, sure, as an admin, no.


    tl;dr None of the things you said are true or against the rules (which you should read if you haven't). Whatever issue you have are yours only. If you can't understand that, sorry. Nobody cares.
     
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  2. Walpknut

    Walpknut Background Radiant

    Dec 30, 2010
    Mutantscalper's mom just scolded him for talking about drugs online.

    I mean, this guy is actually begging for us to get banned because he got owned in an argument? That's almost unreal.
     
  3. zegh8578

    zegh8578 Keeper of the trout Orderite

    Mar 11, 2012
    I gotta add, it is unfair to frame the previous discussion as "glorification of drugs", since it is far from it. Mutantscalper, you can't know the motivations of some people here.

    Remember that a lot of that debate was angled around (our percieved) benefit for the abuser to get better. What if our motivation is abusers - that maybe we know - or are even related to.

    The debate was never, ever about "let's fill society with more awesome drugs!" but "let's go against our instincts and impulses to actually try a method that DOES seem to help abusers get better"

    I have absolutely NO trust in heavily addicted people. From experience, zero trust. They are impossible to trust.
    I do, however, have sympathy. I have no choice but to have sympathy, and I wish them all the good fortunes in the world: To get better.
    That is my motivation. It is the opposite of "drug glorification"
     
  4. Walpknut

    Walpknut Background Radiant

    Dec 30, 2010
    Zegh, you are asking the apple tree to bear pears there.
     
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  5. Crni Vuk

    Crni Vuk M4A3 Oldfag oTO Orderite

    Nov 25, 2008
    I think he is simply like one of those religious nutjobs who wants to see gays burn in hell for their sins and who's in favour of conversion-therapy or something, all of it probably because he's craving so much cock all the time.

    A 'Drug-o-phobic'.
     
  6. Walpknut

    Walpknut Background Radiant

    Dec 30, 2010
    Brother none once gifted Rayman Origins to me even tho we barely talked because I expressed frustration at not being able to buy stuff from steam due to them not having a debit card option back then. Cool guy in my book.
     
  7. Cimmerian Nights

    Cimmerian Nights So Old I'm Losing Radiation Signs

    Aug 20, 2004
    They're all racist, noob, junky, Vergil alts, don't listen to them.


    BN and Sua go down forever in NMA lore for when they surreptitiously ninjaed their way into the Fallout 3 demo during the time when fallout fan sites were (still are I guess) blacklisted.
    http://www.nma-fallout.com/threads/nma-fallout-3-preview-and-q-a.178786

    They won the battle even if we lost the war. :salute:

     
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  8. Walpknut

    Walpknut Background Radiant

    Dec 30, 2010
    I did hear the legends and tales of his Exploits.
     
  9. Crni Vuk

    Crni Vuk M4A3 Oldfag oTO Orderite

    Nov 25, 2008
    I loved trolling the Bethesda forums during F3 development with BN and Twinkie. Good old times.
    In the end we all got banned though.
     
  10. MutantScalper

    MutantScalper Dozy northern git

    Nov 22, 2009
    I don't like Bethesda. I also don't like junkies. Can y'all fathom that?
     
  11. Walpknut

    Walpknut Background Radiant

    Dec 30, 2010
    We can fathom that you are a pretty simpleminded person with zero arguing skills and even less reading comprehension.
     
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  12. Crni Vuk

    Crni Vuk M4A3 Oldfag oTO Orderite

    Nov 25, 2008
    Simpletons can achieve something in life. I mean it's enough for becoming president of the United States.
     
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  13. Atomkilla

    Atomkilla Hazel Hegemon oTO Orderite

    Dec 26, 2010

    Yeah, he did a similar thing with me, gifting me Legend of Grimrock. To this day I am not sure why he did that. I guess he had an extra key and had me in a friendlist?
    Anyway, I really appreciated that, it was nice from him.

    But then he sold his soul to Fargo.
     
  14. MutantScalper

    MutantScalper Dozy northern git

    Nov 22, 2009
  15. Walpknut

    Walpknut Background Radiant

    Dec 30, 2010
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    Can't confirm fake.
     
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  16. Crni Vuk

    Crni Vuk M4A3 Oldfag oTO Orderite

    Nov 25, 2008
    Woha, wo would have thought that Tom Hardy is so good.
     
  17. Walpknut

    Walpknut Background Radiant

    Dec 30, 2010
    Anyone that has watched a movie with him? (except Dark knight rises).
     
  18. valcik

    valcik Sonny, I Watched the Vault Bein' Built!

    Dec 20, 2008
    Yep, Bronson (2008) 5/5 bretty good, go and watch naow!
     
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  19. zegh8578

    zegh8578 Keeper of the trout Orderite

    Mar 11, 2012
    I bought my first junkie-magazine today. To elaborate, they're (rather expensive) local-news-and-gossip magazines that junkies buy for a small penny and sell for a big one, in order to get a little extra money.

    The main reason I never bought any before is a combination of aspie aversion to have anything to do with pampflet-type people - and my constant lack of cash. These people don't carry around debit card terminals.

    In Norway, everyone who's broke, unemployed or unfortunate in some other way recieves some basic survival-money part of welfare service, but this money isn't meant to cater to drug abuse, so junkies will spend all or most of it the first week, then end up begging for pennies the next 3 weeks of the month regardless. This magazine thing is meant to give them a bit of dignity in "having a job", especially since they have to invest in the magazines themselves.

    Anyway, my main point was something different - I was approached by other pampflet-people as I call them, and as much as I want to avoid each and every one of them (hell, some of them try to hail me *while I run* HINT I'm running HINT HINT) - I always acknowledge their presence. From the "save the children!" uniformed-with-a-fitting-cap to the straight-off-the-truck-load-from-Romania stink bag, I acknowledge them all! I look at them, and say "no, sorry" or at least give a quick facial+hand gestore of me being in a hurry - even if I'm not in a hurry, even if I straight up lie - I lie to their face.

    I was eating my pizza, watching this elderly waste-head slurring - over and over and over - "Ten year anniversary of [name of magazine]! Anyone?" and maybe one out of every ten gave him a glance, on their hurried way past him, and actually acknowledged his existence "no thanks!" "sorry, no!"
    The vast majority did not even look at him. They walked 20 centimetres from him, he addressed them directly, and they would not even turn their heads to look at him. Whole families at the time, parents in front, their kids learning from them: Ignore the bum, ignore him, ignore him. He is not human, he is not human.

    I got up, I went to an ATM, I took my 200 bill to a shop, bought some mint pastils to break the bill, went back to the guy, and bought a magazine from him. He wished me a nice day, slurringly. I didn't stay to chat with him, or anything like that, he's a bum and I have a life - but being a bum does not mean he is not a person.

    I've sometimes stopped to explain Romanian import-beggars that I can't give them pennies cus I'm unemployed and notoriously cash-less, and they always seem to appreciate that little moment of just treating them like fellow people - you got problems, I got problems, sorry, can't help you. Rather than "I can't see you, you aren't there."

    Fuckin people...
     
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  20. Hassknecht

    Hassknecht For hate's sake Admin Orderite

    Aug 16, 2010
    Speaking of junkies, I was in Berlin this weekend and was positively surprised. The smell of faeces wasn't that much stronger than in other run-down large cities, I didn't see any syringes, the antifants of Rigaer 94 did not burn any cars, and we only had to change street sides once to avoid aggressive drug dealers. The entry hallway of my friend's building did smell suspiciously, but apparently the turd was tastefully hidden. The gentrification of Friedrichshain definitely works.
     
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