Gun Control

Discussion in 'General Discussion Forum' started by Throatpunch, Jul 25, 2016.

  1. Pariah Dog

    Pariah Dog Every fucking day. Every single fucking day.

    Jun 28, 2018
    Deal with the mental health issue and I think you won't need to even touch on gun control, frankly. Not to mention all the other positive knock-on effects that would result from mental health care being more accessible, less stigmatized and just plain better. It's stupid that people want to go for the guns FIRST, of all things, when you've got that elephant in the room. Of course, all of this ignores a lot of important stuff like the fact that when you look at the numbers we're still far from the worst in the world about this and yet we catch undoubtedly the most flak for having something like the 2nd (seems like a lot of Tall Poppy Syndrome if you ask me). Between Eurochauvinism and good old fashioned "Fuck the USA, am I right guys? YEAH, FUCK THE USA!" crap, it's always an interesting surprise when people start demanding we DO SOMETHING about something they don't like here or abroad. Sure, we'll get right on that.
     
  2. Crni Vuk

    Crni Vuk M4A3 Oldfag oTO Orderite

    Nov 25, 2008
    Obviously if you're standing in the spot light, you'll get a lot of shit thrown at you. The US can get kinda preachy sometimes, with it's democratic values, liberty and beeing the bestest nation in the world I think US citizens think very highly of them selfs and their nation on average but when you look at the last 30 years of military interventions in particular, yeah people love to point out US hypocrisy in particular, even if other nations might be worse in some cases.
    Kinda reminds to this song, you know:


    Just saying this from an outsiders perspective, despite all my criticsm I love the United States.
     
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  3. mobucks

    mobucks moobs Orderite

    May 22, 2010
    “It’s not so much to catch shooters, because we know that’s very difficult, but actually to address very widespread problems that reach millions of kids,” Katherine Newman, a sociologist at Johns Hopkins University, told LiveScience in July.
     
  4. MutantScalper

    MutantScalper Dark side in da houssah

    Nov 22, 2009
    Interesting you should mention Atlanta, I once debated a US cop from Atlanta about the gun laws -issue, he was black cop. He had some interesting things to say although he was a big NRA fan.
     
  5. TorontRayne

    TorontRayne No Memes Allowed Staff Member Moderator Orderite

    Apr 1, 2005


    Gun Control Meme Thread Activate.



    Look at this nonsense. Hahaha.
     
  6. Pariah Dog

    Pariah Dog Every fucking day. Every single fucking day.

    Jun 28, 2018
     
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  7. TorontRayne

    TorontRayne No Memes Allowed Staff Member Moderator Orderite

    Apr 1, 2005
    I WANT MY FUCKING CAKE BACK!








    Please don't tell me that the government can kill us whether we have AR15's or not because they have drones, when cave dwellers kicked our ass in the desert with camels and IED's.

     
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  8. TorontRayne

    TorontRayne No Memes Allowed Staff Member Moderator Orderite

    Apr 1, 2005
    Why does Fallout 3? Which is more important? Who knows?





     
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  9. Crni Vuk

    Crni Vuk M4A3 Oldfag oTO Orderite

    Nov 25, 2008
    You guys are confusing Gun Controll with Fun Controll. No one will ever take your precious toys away. No. One.

    A guy shoot once a couple of toddlers and kidz in a kindergarden with his rifle. Nothing big happend. Another one shoot more than 50 random people. Nothing big happend. If that isn't enough to force changes, than nothing is.

    So there is really no reason to be paranoid guys.
     
  10. TorontRayne

    TorontRayne No Memes Allowed Staff Member Moderator Orderite

    Apr 1, 2005



    Look at these totally real facts.






    Fallout 5 will take place in Chicago or Detroit I hope. Nah, it will be New York.
     
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  11. Crni Vuk

    Crni Vuk M4A3 Oldfag oTO Orderite

    Nov 25, 2008
    Is it meme day again? Fun how those discussions always evolve in repeating useless nonsense oneliners. I could counter those with images from cats and some snarky comment on it that says "Each time someone opposes gun controll a kitten dies" and it would have the same effect. But yes, let us pretend that a highly complex topic can be sumarized in just a few memes. Totally beats every argument.
     
  12. TorontRayne

    TorontRayne No Memes Allowed Staff Member Moderator Orderite

    Apr 1, 2005
    You are really clueless if you think any debate is actually ever going to be solved here. You fuckers circlejerk and whine now when we try to get things light instead of miserable?

    What argument? THE SAME ARGUMENTS? Grow up.



    It's because you don't have a sense of humor isn't it, Crni? I'm sorry.

    :???:
     
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  13. Pariah Dog

    Pariah Dog Every fucking day. Every single fucking day.

    Jun 28, 2018
    memes are fun and people seem to pay attention to them for some reason

    if you can encapsulate a decent message (even if it's not the whole message) in a meme it's generally a good idea to do so as a way to gradually get people interested in the topic

    that said, yeah, this thread goes nowhere faster than any other I've ever seen so might as well.
     
  14. TorontRayne

    TorontRayne No Memes Allowed Staff Member Moderator Orderite

    Apr 1, 2005
    No, it has to be pages and pages of Youtube videos and talking points repeated for decades to get it through to people.
     
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  15. Crni Vuk

    Crni Vuk M4A3 Oldfag oTO Orderite

    Nov 25, 2008
    I didn't say it will ever be 'solved' Toront. See this is a part of the actuall problem, people always think this is a black and white scenario, that you have to find perfect solutions or that every political debate is about who's right and who's wrong and something that ought to be solved! You want gun controll?! What are you! A communist libtart wiener who's supporting Hitler ... I mean Hillary! OH! You're in favour of guns?! Damn fucking hilliby, you want your slaves back too?!

    It's identity politics at its best. There are extremists on both sides, and those memes usually represent them.

    That's not how I understand either democracy or liberty. We're not living in the 17th century anymore, or we would still torture people to get them to confess in court, starting witch trials, killing homosexuals, keeping house slaves, making sure wifes can't study - and also keeping them silent, god damn it! Things that seemed impossible 150 years ago, are now normal.

    Societes are always and constantly in a process of debate and transition where ideas and thoughts are tossed around, that's how we achieve progress in the long run by debates and sometimes very agressive arguing, the free exchange of ideas.

    However, surely nothing will be ever achieved by throwing a gazillion of sensless memes around. And honestly, I am just tired of it.
     
  16. TorontRayne

    TorontRayne No Memes Allowed Staff Member Moderator Orderite

    Apr 1, 2005
    Well, I am tired of you repeating the same thing over and over and over and over and over and over and over. This is why you have 50,000,000 posts.

    Oh it's back to the children with Crni. Not a common talking point repeated over and over and over.
     
  17. Crni Vuk

    Crni Vuk M4A3 Oldfag oTO Orderite

    Nov 25, 2008
    Because I see the same arguments made over and over and over and over and over and over and over.

    I notice that a lot of people here have the habit not to read what I ACTUALLY(!) writte and just read something in it what they THINK(!) I writte. Like when I make two sentences, they kinda only get the information out they want while ignoring the rest. So when I say something about sensible gun laws, it's suddenly that I wan to bann all guns, which I never proposed nor said, I am actually in favour of guns and plan to own a weapon one da. But, yeah I am suddenly one of the 'extremists' out there. Take a few of the other users that also continiously confuse communism with leftism, socialism or social democracy/democratic socialism.

    It's actually a logical fallcy, because the intention is to ridiculoue an argument rather than to adress it. Making a joke is one thing, simplifying a complex political issue another. And I am seeing this issue on the right and the left.
     
  18. TorontRayne

    TorontRayne No Memes Allowed Staff Member Moderator Orderite

    Apr 1, 2005
    I've never gotten so close to putting someone on ignore.
     
  19. Crni Vuk

    Crni Vuk M4A3 Oldfag oTO Orderite

    Nov 25, 2008
  20. Pariah Dog

    Pariah Dog Every fucking day. Every single fucking day.

    Jun 28, 2018
    The funny thing about the extremists is that they are increasingly dictating public opinion through polarization and the political wings are not blanching at the prospect but instead welcoming it with open arms. To say they're irrelevant in the West is blissful ignorance.

    As for ridicule: It works. Rational discussion might as well be at an end anyway, we've effectively exhausted that route and people's attention spans are too short for debates anymore. The political wars of the future are going to be quick, dirty and meme-filled. The aut-right is cringy as fuck but they do understand very well the power memes possess as tools of mockery and drive-by commentary, and they understand that people gobble that shit up.