Gun Control

Discussion in 'General Discussion Forum' started by Throatpunch, Jul 25, 2016.

  1. MutantScalper

    MutantScalper Dark side in da houssah

    Nov 22, 2009
    It's not part of the public sector though although they are masquerading as such.

    Right-wingers are the biggest drinkers of kool-aid, they're the religious ones who ask for no scientific proof of anything.
     
  2. TheGM

    TheGM The voice of reason

    Aug 19, 2008
    "NO U" Fucking hell Scalper...Fuck this retarded ass topic. *leaves*
     
  3. GonZo_626

    GonZo_626 Well Shit!

    Jul 29, 2016
    Wow mass generalizations hmmm, I have met many people who are religious and vote left wing, I have met many right wing people who are not religious in the slightest. The Kool-Aid is strong with you.
     
  4. multi79u

    multi79u First time out of the vault

    Oct 6, 2018
    Aren't most gun owners okay with gun control when it comes to background checking at least? Isn't that only the gun lunatics who thinks "gun control = gun ban"?

    I wouldn't be surprised if they are the same idiots in states politics that still thinks 'climate change' is not a scientific fact.
     
  5. RonPaul08

    RonPaul08 First time out of the vault

    Oct 2, 2018
    I personally am against things like background checks, permits, waiting periods, and such. If you wanted to buy a few gallons of gas, or a tank of propane you wouldn't need a license or background check. People can yammer on all they want about the interpretation of the Second Amendment, but when the founding fathers established this country there was one thing we know for certain they wanted: the right to life, liberty, and property. Those rights are given only by virtue of being human, and thus bestowed upon us by god only. The 2nd Amendment isn't there to say "give the militia the muskets", it's there to say "guns are property".
     
  6. Arnust

    Arnust Maybe you've seen it, maybe, in a dream...

    Feb 2, 2016
    There are limitations to how and how much can you acquire of Propane and Gas. Container law has been a thing forever, and differently to guns, it's a tool to solely serve comfort and basic things like power and heat in some places that may not have them. And if they're comparable because you can *try* make bombs with them, the actual attempts at that are incredibly small especially if comared to firearms, and then most of those attempts have been foiled or been hardly as effective as too many games have made us think. If you're against such minor inconveniences when they could make your contry even just a tad safer, you're not being righteous, you're just being selfish and perhaps even lazy.

    I can't say I really give a shit for people that have been over 200 years dead, and I see as incredibly stupid how should their philosophy be nothing but obsolete in the present. It's not like the US can really preach for "right to life, liberty, and property, by virtue of being human" seeing its history, or even present. And it's cute to think that God bestowed these constitutional rights, but it's not worth shit. At best, God signed his name on it and fucked off, he can't be held accountable for anything and that's what any remotely democratic contry should at least have. Pretty sure that most fascist regimes were also "supperted" by God, for how much that's worth.
     
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  7. MutantScalper

    MutantScalper Dark side in da houssah

    Nov 22, 2009
  8. GonZo_626

    GonZo_626 Well Shit!

    Jul 29, 2016
    Hmmm lets see why

    Hopkins, a disbarred lawyer, surrendered after a two-hour standoff, walking out of the house wearing a knee brace. He wasn't shot but was described as being unconscious, possibly because he had a heart attack or some other physiological response to the shootout, Kirby said.

    So sounds like he walked out and fell unconscious, not fighting with the officers anymore. But go ahead and assume every US cop is a racist just looking to shoot a black guy, not defending themselves when needed. You are very good at these mass generalizations. Yes there are some racist cops, but I am sure as with most things they are the minority and most just want to make it through the day.

    RIP to the police officer, too bad the offender did not get offed though as this is just going to be a waste of taxes judging and imprisoning him, and since he is a lawyer he will drag it out.
     
  9. Arnust

    Arnust Maybe you've seen it, maybe, in a dream...

    Feb 2, 2016
    Had this blast from the past.

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  10. CaptBob

    CaptBob First time out of the vault

    Sep 20, 2018
    ?? NRA is responsible for the national Al instant background check system, campaigned hard for it. The idea has always been to keep them out of the wrong hands. They are criminal control, which makes infinitely more sense. They always push for stiffer sentences for crimes committed with guns, as reported in the past that 85 percent of prison inmates were repeat offenders. They were strong supporters of the project Exile program that had extreme penalties for gun crime and it showed good results, but by chance gun criminals didn't have enough cultural diversity, and it was cut for being racist. So saying they support crime is ridiculous. People, in this country even, have to realize the size of this country allows pockets of the third world to exist inside our borders partially because of unchecked foriegn criminal incursion (illegal immigration) and local overtaxing causing jobs to leave areas, putting everyone on government poverty assistance, thus keeping them there to vote for more assistance. Handouts from taxes cause poverty and kill jobs. Then they get sick of looking for a gal on assistance to shack with because no job and turn to crime. There have been cases of a 3 time murderer out on bail for a 4th murder committing a 5th, when laws on the books would have let him get a 100 year sentence for the third one, but they get a revolving door system instead. Don't blame guns for the crime, Bernard Goetz had to shoot his way past 5? Guys with sharpened screwdrivers in New York I think. They make home-made weapons that would hurt way worse if they need too.

    The american Constitution was revolutionary as a system to maximize individual freedom, so much so that we are still working it out in hearts, people not following it doesn't make it invalid. The fact remains that the rights of the one out-way the rights of the many, the many ARE the individuals. Also guns are used more times in defense than assault each year (with or without firing), so it would make it less safe. Figures quoted against guns disingenuously include defensive and police use.

    Totally need to quit acting like democrat leftists, Bill Clinton, Weinstien and Anthony Weiner should not be role models.
     
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  11. Hassknecht

    Hassknecht For hate's sake Admin Orderite

    Aug 16, 2010
    Please don't multipost, use the edit-button instead.
     
  12. MutantScalper

    MutantScalper Dark side in da houssah

    Nov 22, 2009
  13. Cimmerian Nights

    Cimmerian Nights So Old I'm Losing Radiation Signs

    Aug 20, 2004
    Saying my party is more virtuous because they logged fewer sex assaults than the other party is akin to when cigarette companies used to advertise "Our cigarettes have less tar and carcinogens than the other brand."
     
  14. MutantScalper

    MutantScalper Dark side in da houssah

    Nov 22, 2009
    I don't have a dog in that race since I'm not really from the USA. However, certain issues like gun legislations actually do have global ramifications.
     
  15. BigGuyCIA

    BigGuyCIA Vault Dweller

    Oct 26, 2016
    Such as.
     
  16. MutantScalper

    MutantScalper Dark side in da houssah

    Nov 22, 2009
    Such as? There is a 'branch office' of NRA in my country. In other European nations as well. The US gun companies are trying to sell there products globally, with USA having been the no. 1 arms trader of the world for decades. USA doesn't care if it is selling weapons to warring nations or promoting loose civilian gun laws around the planet.
     
  17. BigGuyCIA

    BigGuyCIA Vault Dweller

    Oct 26, 2016
    Remind me why this is an issue? H&K and Beretta are German and Italian, respectively.

    Yeah but this isn't really gun control. This is more the ethics of who you sell toys to.
     
  18. MutantScalper

    MutantScalper Dark side in da houssah

    Nov 22, 2009
    It makes the US gun industry/military industrial complex a factor in the increase of gun violence in nations other than USA.
     
  19. BigGuyCIA

    BigGuyCIA Vault Dweller

    Oct 26, 2016
    How much of a factor in an overly saturated market? It just sounds like you're trying to find another thing to bash U.S. gun nuts over.
     
  20. MutantScalper

    MutantScalper Dark side in da houssah

    Nov 22, 2009
    USA has been the no. 1 'saturator' of the market for decades.

    Btw, I think in USA they are due for another big shooting. In 2016 there was the Pulse night club, in 2017 there was Vegas. Still time to beat Vegas shooters 'high score'.