Gun Control

Discussion in 'General Discussion Forum' started by Throatpunch, Jul 25, 2016.

  1. valcik

    valcik Sonny, I Watched the Vault Bein' Built!

    Dec 20, 2008
    What do you think? I didn't wrote they don't deserve to die, I wrote they don't deserve to die for sole screaming. Tough luck, shit happens, you badly evaluate the situation or underestimate/misunderstand the danger and you are goner..
     
  2. zegh8578

    zegh8578 Keeper of the trout Orderite

    Mar 11, 2012
    Kindov like in Game of Thrones!
     
  3. Hassknecht

    Hassknecht For hate's sake Admin Orderite

    Aug 16, 2010
    Sometimes I wished I'd live in Fat Somalia, where opening the door and being scared can get you justifiably killed. Think of the incredibly evolutionary advantages! The Golden Path is unbroken!
     
  4. Arnust

    Arnust Maybe you've seen it, maybe, in a dream...

    Feb 2, 2016
    Authoritity Abuse Darwinism! No place for the weak, unless every muscle of your body resonates with His will you get some sweet hot lead into yer face!

    "Hey Little Timmy your dad died because he was a little bitch" - val
     
  5. valcik

    valcik Sonny, I Watched the Vault Bein' Built!

    Dec 20, 2008
    Bi-la kaifa!
    No, he died because he shared his personal details in stupid online game full of dangerous psychopaths.
     
  6. Arnust

    Arnust Maybe you've seen it, maybe, in a dream...

    Feb 2, 2016
    You... KNOW he had nothing to do with the grudge match those two guys were having, right? What, it's his fault for the cruel gods to point their finger at him or something?
     
  7. Hassknecht

    Hassknecht For hate's sake Admin Orderite

    Aug 16, 2010
    He should have expected that on some random days heavily armed cops would knock at his door and immediately shoot him.
    Why did they even knock first? Just fucking drone-strike the house and be done with it. Less chance of a police officer breaking a nail or something.
     
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  8. valcik

    valcik Sonny, I Watched the Vault Bein' Built!

    Dec 20, 2008
    My mistake, until now I thought of him as one of the players. So his only fault was he didn't freeze or kept his mouth shut in front of SWAT team, that sucks.
     
  9. Arnust

    Arnust Maybe you've seen it, maybe, in a dream...

    Feb 2, 2016
    Drones with specific motion recognition, just to be safe about those waist reachings. Or smelling bad.
     
  10. Hassknecht

    Hassknecht For hate's sake Admin Orderite

    Aug 16, 2010
    Just kill 'em all and let God sort 'em out. It's the american way. Teach them a lesson they will remember in their bones. Or what's left of their bones.
     
  11. Arnust

    Arnust Maybe you've seen it, maybe, in a dream...

    Feb 2, 2016
    That's Step Two of "The Plan". Patience, Hass.
     
  12. valcik

    valcik Sonny, I Watched the Vault Bein' Built!

    Dec 20, 2008
    Bollock, with full automatization approaching at frightening rate they'll send a ROBOCOP in. Ask Vuk, he knows.
     
  13. Hassknecht

    Hassknecht For hate's sake Admin Orderite

    Aug 16, 2010
    The Golden Path will result in the most pure american populace that can never be bullied into paying taxes by King George. The true american way of life will be to answer an unexpected knock on the door with a massive hail of gunfire because it could be the tyrannical government trying to rob you, or your neighbour trying to rape your daughters. Better safe than sorry.
     
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  14. valcik

    valcik Sonny, I Watched the Vault Bein' Built!

    Dec 20, 2008
    This is not American specialty though, we've had a lot of persons killed by police officers here in Slovakia too. Glorious Bundesrepublik Deutschland makes no exception either, with some dubious cases as a suspecteed weed dealer being shot in the back of his head:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_killings_by_law_enforcement_officers_in_Germany
    Seems that old ways of executions tried and trusted in WW2 German concentration camps survived to this day.
     
  15. Hassknecht

    Hassknecht For hate's sake Admin Orderite

    Aug 16, 2010
  16. valcik

    valcik Sonny, I Watched the Vault Bein' Built!

    Dec 20, 2008
    No doubt they kill some more than you or we do. Let's make some fun of these deaths in Germany anyway, just for the good measure, shall we?
     
  17. Hassknecht

    Hassknecht For hate's sake Admin Orderite

    Aug 16, 2010
    Oh, absolutely. Tennessee Eisenberg was a fun case, too, with it being established that Eisenberg was shot several times in the back after he was subdued with warning shots and pepper spray. Bavarian police is basically american at times.
     
  18. valcik

    valcik Sonny, I Watched the Vault Bein' Built!

    Dec 20, 2008
    Same here, one man got killed by police two weeks ago, when stealing a car with his friend. As turned out later, one of them was a member of organized crime group responsible for cash dispensers robberies. Before this incident he was caught and sentenced three times, only to get released again after couple of weeks. If you ask me, the police officers knew who is this supposed "car thief" and simply executed him - more than ten shots fired at his car.. His companion survived.

    edit:
    Found some info in (google translated) English: https://tech2.org/slovakia/new-fact...ecuted-from-the-rear-spreading-to-the-police/
     
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  19. Crni Vuk

    Crni Vuk M4A3 Oldfag oTO Orderite

    Nov 25, 2008
    ROBOCOP is basically a documentary about Detroit.

    On a more serious note though, the army is toying around with the idea of autonomous weapons and some people in the UN think about outlawing it, if there isn't at least a human making the decisions.

    But what do you think? How long would it take before we might see some form of law enforcement robot on the streets? 20 years? 40? Maybe 50?

    I actually would welcome it, because I have no doubt that a sophisticated AI would do a much better job at not shooting civilians for being drunk, or yelling at them, for the very simple reason that a machine doesn't have to shoot a suspect out of 'fear' for its own life.

    It's really just a matter of time, before we actually see something like an autonomous robot doing police work out there on the streets, and once they proven to be more effective than humans, they would be also armed. All that matters, is the question if they perform less errors than human beings. It's not to far away from what you see in arguments with autonomous cars today. Give those technologies a couple of decades, and who knows what will happen. Just because something sounds like science fiction now, doesn't have to mean it might not be the reality in 50 years.


    Dubai Police have revealed their first robot officer, giving it the task of patrolling the city's malls and tourist attractions.
    People will be able to use it to report crimes, pay fines and get information by tapping a touchscreen on its chest.
    Data collected by the robot will also be shared with the transport and traffic authorities.

    The government said the aim was for 25% of the force to be robotic by 2030 but they would not replace humans.
    "We are not going to replace our police officers with this tool," said Brig Khalid Al Razooqi, director general of smart services at Dubai Police.

    "But with the number of people in Dubai increasing, we want to relocate police officers so they work in the right areas and can concentrate on providing a safe city.

    http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-40026940


    That no one deserves to be shoot by the police for cursing, screaming or the like, because the police isn't a jurry, judge and executioner in one person? Seperation of power and all that useless jazz.

    I am just asking you, because I just try to get behind your reasoning. Otherwise I would have only to assume why you're in such favour of the police in such cases.

    You seem to me almost positive about anything they do, be it from beating civilians, to torturing them, to killing them, you name it. It's like they can do no wrong for you, because something always 'justifies' their actions. It's like as if a doctor kills his patients in like half of his surgies, but you know, on some days he didn't had enough sleep, on others to much, the caffeine was to blame for some mistake as his hands jerked around, and so on and so forth ...
     
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  20. valcik

    valcik Sonny, I Watched the Vault Bein' Built!

    Dec 20, 2008
    You can't trick me, I see the plans within the plans through the ruse!
    When almighty house Germanides tried to conquer all the world know to men, it was proud Emperor sending legions of his most fine sardaukars who stopped the madness and forced duke Dolphi commit suicide out of shame in his underground fortress. Since then, house Germanides keep plotting against the empire, undermining his power, mocking his militant nature, dreaming that the time comes again when strong armies of house Germanides would march forward conquering the lands! That's why new house Germanides born from the ashes of destroyed kingdom of theirs forged alliance with fremens, fierce warriors from wast sand deserts, hoping to overcome the most dreaded Emperor.