I Have Questions About Fallout Gameplay (1 and 2)

Discussion in 'Fallout RPG Gameplay & Tech' started by DwayneGAnd, Sep 3, 2017.

  1. DwayneGAnd

    DwayneGAnd Still Mildly Glowing

    Oct 12, 2016
    I did aim at the eyes! Apparently it's not guaranteed to be a critical hit!
     
  2. ThatZenoGuy

    ThatZenoGuy Residential Zealous Evolved Nano Organism

    Nov 8, 2016
    Duh, you don't have very high luck.

    Think of builds in advance, more luck=more crit rate.

    You want to have 9-10 luck for an eye sniping build.

    Otherwise you should have went with lower luck, and fast shot.
     
  3. DwayneGAnd

    DwayneGAnd Still Mildly Glowing

    Oct 12, 2016
    but someone above said that luck should be maxed if you take fast shot and use burst fire weapons. The hardcore gaming site said that you should only have enough luck endgame to get better criticals, which is 6. Then when you get sniper, your critical hit chance is increased.

    And as I asked above, is there any point in continuing to make targeted shots when you have 10 luck and every hit you make is a critical hit? Seems like a waste to me. I asked above when it is necessary to have maxed luck end game.
     
  4. ThatZenoGuy

    ThatZenoGuy Residential Zealous Evolved Nano Organism

    Nov 8, 2016
    Sniper makes the roll act as Luck X 10.

    Thus, 10 luck=100% crit rate.

    Hits to the eyes and head do more damage with crits than leg crits.
     
  5. DwayneGAnd

    DwayneGAnd Still Mildly Glowing

    Oct 12, 2016
    the play it hardcore site above says this about luck:

    Luck affects your critical chance, as well as access to one of the most wanted perks - Sniper. Sniper requires 6 Luck. And, like Endurance, Luck also have effects on results of critical hits and misses. So, if you want a Jinxed build, you'll want to max it. If you go for neither, dump it in favour of other stats.

    Obviously, melee characters don't need to max their luck because slayer automatically upgrades all hits to critical. And Fast Shot Burst Fire builds should also max luck as someone suggested here. They said that sniper rifle or pistol builds only need 6.

    And which is more powerful, a critical untargeted hit or a hit to the eyes or head? Do you even need to make targeted shots if sniper upgrades all hits to criticals with 10 luck?
     
  6. ThatZenoGuy

    ThatZenoGuy Residential Zealous Evolved Nano Organism

    Nov 8, 2016
    What hardcore site? I don't proclaim myself a 'hardcore gamer', but Fallout 1-2 is easy as shit. The only things which are remotely challenging are random mutant/enclave crits.

    If you want crits, you want luck, end of story.

    How hard is this to comprehend?

    Crits are the most ludicrous way of dealing damage, you WANT crits on everything tougher than a bandit.

    Not only do crits do more damage, they can cripple enemies, making them even easier to kill.
     
  7. ThatZenoGuy

    ThatZenoGuy Residential Zealous Evolved Nano Organism

    Nov 8, 2016
    >Fallout difficulty: 8

    >My sides.

    I'd consider a fucking hard mod like Misery to be an 8 tops, maybe even a 7, and some of the badass Fallout 1-2 players here consider that excrutiatingly hard to the point of not wanting to play it, which is fair, it is a fucking bullshit mod.

    Don't listen to shitty wiki's like that.
     
  8. DwayneGAnd

    DwayneGAnd Still Mildly Glowing

    Oct 12, 2016
    I didn't get an answer to a question I asked earlier.

    Say I have 10 luck and get the sniper perk to have a critical hit on every hit. Is there any point to continue making targeted shots which cost more AP? Don't all critical hits deal the same amount of damage no matter where you hit them?
     
  9. ThatZenoGuy

    ThatZenoGuy Residential Zealous Evolved Nano Organism

    Nov 8, 2016
    No, not all crits are equal, especially with the better criticals perk.

    Eye shots have an 'instant death' roll, as does...Head I think?

    Groin shots have a good chance to knock people out, etc.
     
  10. DwayneGAnd

    DwayneGAnd Still Mildly Glowing

    Oct 12, 2016
    what about damage modifiers? Does targeting certain locations cause more damage than others?
     
  11. ThatZenoGuy

    ThatZenoGuy Residential Zealous Evolved Nano Organism

    Nov 8, 2016
    Yes.

    Eyeshots/headshots do more than leg shots, even with crits.

    Edit: Seriously, just read the fucking Fallout wiki on crits.
     
  12. DwayneGAnd

    DwayneGAnd Still Mildly Glowing

    Oct 12, 2016
    Thanks. That advice helps a lot. Yet it seems to me that the only way to create an endgame character with max luck and as many action points as possible is to take the gifted trait. It's impossible to do otherwise without sacrificing high values in other stats.
     
  13. ThatZenoGuy

    ThatZenoGuy Residential Zealous Evolved Nano Organism

    Nov 8, 2016
    You can make all kinds of endgame builds, it's just that high luck gifted ones happen to be easily made.
     
  14. DwayneGAnd

    DwayneGAnd Still Mildly Glowing

    Oct 12, 2016
    I suppose in fallout 2, that the gain perks could be used to achieve max values in agility or luck.
     
  15. ThatZenoGuy

    ThatZenoGuy Residential Zealous Evolved Nano Organism

    Nov 8, 2016
    There's also the chips, the zeta scans, and in the RP, the agility boost syringe.
     
  16. DwayneGAnd

    DwayneGAnd Still Mildly Glowing

    Oct 12, 2016
    I have the restoration mod for fallout 2. I know about the zeta scans, the implants, and the agility boost syringe.
     
  17. ThatZenoGuy

    ThatZenoGuy Residential Zealous Evolved Nano Organism

    Nov 8, 2016
    IMO don't worry too much about SPECIAL, get high luck and agility, the rest are mostly dumpstats, for parts of builds.

    Want followers in vanilla? You need Charisma (I honestly like having unlimited followers though XD). Want to carry more, need strength, etc.
     
  18. DwayneGAnd

    DwayneGAnd Still Mildly Glowing

    Oct 12, 2016
    you've been more than very helpful! Thank you! I feel more than ready to truly conquer the games now! Even though I have been playing them for years, now I how to truly play like a pro!

    Now for the other Fallout games in their respective gameplay section threads.
     
    Last edited: Sep 8, 2017
  19. burn

    burn Where'd That 6th Toe Come From?
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    Apr 22, 2012
    It's a wiki, dude. You want it updated - go and do that.
    The link to EcCo is there.