Let's Talk About The FEV Virus

Discussion in 'General Fallout Discussion' started by The King of The Worms, Aug 8, 2017.

  1. The King of The Worms

    The King of The Worms First time out of the vault

    Jul 28, 2017
    Okay so at one point someone had told me that the FEV virus shouldn't still be around because you destroy it in Fallout 1. Now this all well and good until you actually think about it realistically. Tell me why there wouldn't be multiple facilities creating the virus? I mean surely the facility you destroy in Fallout 1 couldn't possibly be the only one?

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  2. R.Graves

    R.Graves Confirmed Retard

    Apr 21, 2016
    It's literally ecplicitly stated to be the only one.

    In 2077, Major Barnett ordered transfer of all FEV research to Mariposa.

    ALL research to ONE location. The one the vault dweller destroyed.

    Here's the actual transcript of the Fev Expirement Disk where this is stated.
    So as to have in game evidence.
    It's the last log. January 7th, 2077.
     
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  3. Prone Squanderer

    Prone Squanderer A bit of a Sillius Soddus.

    Jan 3, 2016
    Not to mention that the Forced Evolutionary Virus was a top secret project. Spreading it to other facilities (and in the hands of other companies) increases the risk of the Chinese and the general public finding out about it.
     
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  4. TorontRayne

    TorontRayne Misanthropic God of Rations Staff Member Moderator Orderite

    Apr 1, 2005
    That part never bothered me. What bothered me was shit characters like Moira, with garbage locations and endless subway tunnels. Also the fact that you have to mod the game to make it playable.

    A lot of the lore complaints don't really bug me. The lore is shit anyway. Fallout 2 had pretty shitty lore to be honest.
     
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  5. R.Graves

    R.Graves Confirmed Retard

    Apr 21, 2016
    Tbh it had a lot of good lore too. Fallout 2 is the ultimate mixed bag. But yeah inconsitent lore and bad writting are my biggest problems with nu fallout.
     
  6. TorontRayne

    TorontRayne Misanthropic God of Rations Staff Member Moderator Orderite

    Apr 1, 2005
    Like I said though pretty much all of the Fallout games have had inconsistent lore with lulzy pop culture crap thrown in. Fallout 1 and New Vegas are exceptions, even then you have Doctor Who and Star Wars references. We take this shit way too seriously. A sign of mental illness imo.
     
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  7. R.Graves

    R.Graves Confirmed Retard

    Apr 21, 2016
    :-?

    Fallout 1 and new vegas are the great ones. All the rest range from passable to insulting. Sure sometimes we can get carried away with nitpicking lore but lore and continuity are very important to a series like fallout. Ultimately it is just another franchise that has fallen from grace but I guess the fact that shit entries have become so popular is what really grinds my gears.
     
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  8. Kohno

    Kohno A Smooth-Skin

    Jul 30, 2009
    I agree with toront (about taking it too seriously) from the point of view that I'm not really a lorefreak myself. I don't care to take part in lore debates and I can handle mediocre and even bad lore and writing if I have fun playing the game. Lore and writing feels way way overhighlighted at the cost of caring about gameplay anyway.

    Then again, if we care not about internal consistency and stuff like that, why should we care about idiotic shit like Moira, Little Lamplight or kid in the fridge beyond saying the are that.
     
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  9. Prone Squanderer

    Prone Squanderer A bit of a Sillius Soddus.

    Jan 3, 2016
    Wouldn't signing up to No Mutants Allowed have been the first sign of mental illness?

    ^This.
     
  10. Einhanderc7

    Einhanderc7 Vat dipped, grown and still oozing with perfection

    Apr 22, 2016
    All I'm going to say is Orcs do not equal super mutants plain and simple.
    I don't care that they retconned the FEV quantities, I only care about the fact that all the super mutants we ever come across are moronic insulting caricature's of what they could and should be.

    I don't know about everyone else, but I prefer a smart enemy vs. a genetically engineered nincompoop.
    Otherwise it feels like I'm beating up on mental patients who are so disconnected with reality they don't even know what it is they are really doing.
     
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  11. Kadscaner

    Kadscaner NMA's Neighborhood Mutant

    Feb 4, 2016
    Like the average NMA user?
     
  12. Einhanderc7

    Einhanderc7 Vat dipped, grown and still oozing with perfection

    Apr 22, 2016
    Oh you dirty old ghoul, your just trying to grind my gears. But I wouldn't say the average NMA user, only the trolls and drones.
     
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  13. Tawûsê

    Tawûsê First time out of the vault

    Jul 20, 2017
    I don't know if that should insult Bethesda fans or NMA members.
     
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  14. twillight

    twillight First time out of the vault

    Jul 15, 2017
    Uhm, Enclave had some barrels.
    The Master transported the goo around for his on purpose.
    Supermutants and others had it in their system.
    The Glow peoduced anairborn variant.

    The FEV is very well all around in the Fallout Universe.
     
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  15. R.Graves

    R.Graves Confirmed Retard

    Apr 21, 2016
    1. Source?

    2. Fine but there was still only one facility so vault tek and the institute shouldn't have any
     
  16. Alphons

    Alphons First time out of the vault

    Aug 9, 2017
    If it was used to create something else than Supermutants i would not mind expanding pool of Bethesda creations. But then it could be entirely something else.
    Even if they made those Failed FEV Subjects from Fallout 3 to act like green orcs we have now and say that they were made with Reversed Evolutionary Virus it would still be better than dragging poor ol' FEV into every game like BOS.
     
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  17. twillight

    twillight First time out of the vault

    Jul 15, 2017
    The games Fallout 1 and 2.
     
  18. R.Graves

    R.Graves Confirmed Retard

    Apr 21, 2016
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    That simply ain't gonna cut it. All that is stated in both games? Where? By who? Was it a character? A holodisk? Hecken evidence is required. You can't just say "the games" and then call that evidence. Come on, man.
     
  19. Hassknecht

    Hassknecht For hate's sake Admin Orderite

    Aug 16, 2010
    Well, the Enclave certainly had some FEV samples to make the FEV Curling-13 strain. But it seems they only had samples, not barrels full of it, so it seems unlikely that they shipped it around too much.
    I don't think the Master was mentioned to ship around the FEV. He developed his dipping process in the Mariposa vats, and that's where all the known FEV was.
    The airborne FEV from the Glow wasn't "real" FEV, it didn't actually mutate its victims in full, just sorta inoculates them. And even that was just a theory of the Lieutenant.
    Judging from Fallout 1 and 2, FEV should not be anywhere but Mariposa with a few (destroyed) nutrient vats at West Tek.
    Giving the FEV to Vault Tek and the Institute doesn't really make much sense since it's explicitly stated to be a top secret military project based in one/two locations.
     
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  20. Jogre

    Jogre It's all JO'Ger now

    Oct 25, 2015
    Because FEV is highly-experimental shit, still being tested in Mariposa. You don't ship unfinished, unstable, untesteded shit all over the US, you test it first before mass-producing it.

    It would be ok if maybe they sent some FEV over to Washington or Boston to be tested on local quarantine towns, but shipping huge quantities(Enogu to make literally hundreds of Supermutants) is nono.
     
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