Lore. Lore never changes.

Discussion in 'Future Fallout Game Discussion' started by ikazuchi87, Jan 6, 2017.

  1. ikazuchi87

    ikazuchi87 First time out of the vault

    Jun 16, 2007
  2. CerberusGate

    CerberusGate I should save my game in a whole new slot

    Jun 6, 2016
    Saw this on 9gag before.

    I am proud to report that 90% of the comments were of people commenting on how inaccurate the entire post was. Seems New Vegas reignited the sparks of intelligent Fallout fans.
     
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  3. Jogre

    Jogre It's all JO'Ger now

    Oct 25, 2015
    A couple of those people were still wrong.

    (For example, all the people who said "Hurr Durr, The Enclave's main goal was to get rid of teh supermutants and teh ghouls)
     
  4. CerberusGate

    CerberusGate I should save my game in a whole new slot

    Jun 6, 2016
    Oh right... Well:

    At least general gamers tend to not follow Bethesda fanboy logic. Only the 'special' ones.
     
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  5. Black Angel

    Black Angel Grand Inquisitor of the Ordo Hereticus

    Mar 21, 2016
    Can you link me to the 9gag post?

    I absolutely hated 9gag gaming section because it was such a hype-hole. But recently every time there's a post trying to mention games like Skyrim as a 'good RPG' or even a 'good game', there would be a comment or two at the top putting it down with pretty reasonable argument and quite a lot of people agreeing with those comments. Seems like the Witcher 3 and the fact that proper RPGs are out there and easily accessible kind of wake them up.

    It would be interesting to see how far the 'gaming' audience at large starts to mature a bit.
     
  6. Jogre

    Jogre It's all JO'Ger now

    Oct 25, 2015
    IIRC, from back when I browsed 9gag, the top comment was almost always disagreeing with the post. Probably because people there don't really downvote as often as other sites, whereas they upvote frequently, so comments disagreeing with the post can become top comment fairly easily.
     
  7. Arnust

    Arnust Vault Senior Citizen

    Feb 2, 2016
    I like how they throw a a cookie for West Coast Fallouts, the rest is all West and fucked up context
     
  8. CT Phipps

    CT Phipps Half-way Through My Half-life

    Sep 17, 2016
    I was surprised how accurate it was, actually.
     
  9. Arnust

    Arnust Vault Senior Citizen

    Feb 2, 2016
    Duuuuuuude. I love you but it looks like you are trying to piss people off on purpose :P
     
  10. CerberusGate

    CerberusGate I should save my game in a whole new slot

    Jun 6, 2016
    Don't devolve into a troll. You were doing so well before your recent behavior. In fact, you seemed pretty intelligent (with varied opinions from other members) before resorting to seemingly blatant trollish responses towards counters to your points.

    It was a long time ago. Sadly said post was upvoted like crazy so I doubt the audience has matured.
     
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  11. CT Phipps

    CT Phipps Half-way Through My Half-life

    Sep 17, 2016
    It's not trolling. I mean details about the BOS and Capital Wasteland are wrong but it's the general shape of it. It reminds me how scholars would probably view the events from a century or two.
     
  12. CerberusGate

    CerberusGate I should save my game in a whole new slot

    Jun 6, 2016
    Quite a lot of it is still rather wrong though and the OP (especially the one on 9gag) obviously meant for it to be taken seriously.

    It was satisfying to watch the OP get flayed by all the comments pointing out every lore inaccuracy in that post.
     
  13. CT Phipps

    CT Phipps Half-way Through My Half-life

    Sep 17, 2016
    Eh, with a little cleaning up, it actually would do well as a way to get people the opening crawl version of Fallout's history.

    A for effort.

    C for accuracy.
     
  14. CerberusGate

    CerberusGate I should save my game in a whole new slot

    Jun 6, 2016
    It requires a lot actually. Misinterpreting the Brotherhood and Enclave like that while brushing over things like New Vegas are among the things that needs to be fixed.
     
  15. Arnust

    Arnust Vault Senior Citizen

    Feb 2, 2016
    Advanced (X-01 ugh) Power Armor, by West-Tek and pre-war. That's enough.
    Also Phipps, didn't they miss the introduction of T-60 PA? ;)
     
  16. Black Angel

    Black Angel Grand Inquisitor of the Ordo Hereticus

    Mar 21, 2016
    The opposite of Redderp in that regard, I see :smug:

    Thing is, 9gag is rife with upvotes bot, and most of the audience were too fixated on getting as many upvotes as possible. Hell, so many times long ago genuine member of the community had been calling out these automatically upvoted post which had barely been out for a minute but already had like 300 upvotes but no comment whatsoever.

    Fortunately, like JO'Geran mentioned above, genuine comments are a little bit more trustworthy indicator of seeing how far the audience's maturity go.
     
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  17. CerberusGate

    CerberusGate I should save my game in a whole new slot

    Jun 6, 2016
    Based on most comments these days even on Redderp, Fallout tourists (gonna borrow this term) are a receding and unpopular minority that rarely leave their safe spaces.

    They regularly get lampooned on by other commentators all the time for being so fanboyish and whenever one bashes New Vegas, there are twice as many responses calling them out & fully countering all of their points. It's a nice contrast to how it was during 4's hype season.
     
  18. Risewild

    Risewild Vault Fossil
    Modder Orderite

    Jun 14, 2014
    That's because of what I said one year ago, many people who like Fallout 4 will grow out of it and move to the next shiny thing. They will look back and go "I like Fallout 4, I played it for a long time in the past. But now I like *insert new game name here* more.", in a couple more years many of the people who almost worshiped Fallout 4 will change their minds.

    People who like the classic games almost never stop liking them, but people who like the new shiny games will usually move on after a few years (and some will even start to like the older games instead).
     
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  19. CerberusGate

    CerberusGate I should save my game in a whole new slot

    Jun 6, 2016
    Yeah... nowadays games like Fallout 4 are like passing trends. They peak at one point before dying off fast.

    Classics (along with games worthy of being classics), on the other hand, are timeless.
     
  20. ikazuchi87

    ikazuchi87 First time out of the vault

    Jun 16, 2007
    Like BioShock, FarCry, Crysis... all good games but in the end they are all just generic shooters with forgetable story. That is what bethestas fallout is generic rpg shooter with horrible story, forgetable characters, illusion of choice with no real consequences.