Most hated cliché/trope in fiction

Discussion in 'General Discussion Forum' started by Mr muggyman 3000, Oct 8, 2016.

  1. mithrap

    mithrap Ring a ding-ding, baby

    May 17, 2016
    Oh, looks like one of "these" movies :) there's Robert Englund in the casting though, that's nice.
    The idea of zombified bees may seem silly, but it would actually be a solid reason why the world goes to shit. Because realistically, a zombie invasion wouldn't last more than a year before nature exterminates every single zombie on earth. They would fall down cliffs, be eaten by birds, boil under the sun, freeze during winter, die of starvation etc. Zombie bees, however...
    Now that I think about it, have you ever seen a movie in which zombies finish their meals ? They just bite the guy a little bit, so that he turns into a zombie for plot convenience, and they just leave him like this. I've never seen a zombie eating someone until the bone, like he's supposed to do.
     
  2. Mr Fish

    Mr Fish ...I Remember...

    Sep 11, 2010
    1. Read world war z.

    2. See any romero film.
     
  3. Jogre

    Jogre It's all JO'Ger now

    Oct 25, 2015
    Zombies eventually dying because they are unable to care for themselves was a major plot point in 28 days later.

    It's revealed by the main villain ,that since the infected don't farm or hunt, that they will probably die of starvation within a few weeks.
     
  4. cordelionreaver

    cordelionreaver Look, Ma! Two Heads!

    Nov 29, 2015
    Medieval Stasis: people don't to realize how long a thousands years is.
    Katanas are Better: I remember when the Wizards of the Coasts forums banned katana threads, because katana fanboys couldn't accept that katanas aren't better then European swords.

    The player is the only competent person in the game. I hate that in games. It makes it hard for me to get into the story if all the characters are baffling stupid.
     
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  5. Prone Squanderer

    Prone Squanderer A bit of a Sillius Soddus.

    Jan 3, 2016
    That and when the player is competent but then in cut scenes the player character is a complete moron.
     
  6. Millim

    Millim The Big Straight Orderite

    Oct 13, 2010
    The book suggests that Harry was meant to be in Slytherine but because he begged not to, he wasn't put in there.

    The book also shows Harry to be the perfect kid who does no wrong so it kind of contradicts itself.

    Maybe I'm just jaded through.
    I didn't think the book was bad and the films do improve as time goes on, but I felt Harry wasn't allowed to act like an 11 year old
     
  7. R.Graves

    R.Graves Confirmed Retard

    Apr 21, 2016
    @aas
    4 issues or volumes or books?

    I don't have that problem because my local public library carries them.... In the children's section. And why even funnier is the alphabet puts them on the bottom shelf.
     
  8. SarcasticGoodGuy

    SarcasticGoodGuy *R O T T E N*

    Aug 31, 2016
    only issues
     
  9. Walpknut

    Walpknut This ghoul has seen it all

    Dec 30, 2010
    Writters thinking they are cute and clever for putting punny names on characters as a means of "acknowledging" they are using old and tired cliches with no twist in an attempt to seem creative while just doing trite shit instead of you know, try and write something that isn't on the same level as a tv soap opera from 30 years prior or a 12 year old's fanfic.

    "See? The characters are chasing an object called a Mcguffin! Aren't I clever? First guy to die is also called Carmine Vest because I know he was a redshirt"

    Sequels to movies that are just dumber reprises of the previous movies that just mug at the screen everytime they quote some line. Those also make me roll my eyes.
     
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  10. Dr Fallout

    Dr Fallout Centurion

    Aug 17, 2015
    I actually like this when there's a good reason for it. For example in Starbound (computer game) there's a group of sentient robots created as an experiment by an alien race where they would go through the different stages of tech and history. However, a glitch in the system (they're called the Glitch) made their ideals and views stuck in the medieval age. They're technologically advanced but they're very medieval.
     
  11. Walpknut

    Walpknut This ghoul has seen it all

    Dec 30, 2010
    Single Culture/Single Biome Planets. Specially when they treat traveling to another planet like taking a trip to the city next door. Space Opera really loves making every potentialy interesting aspect of intergalactic interaction be really dull and unimaginative.
     
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  12. Mr Fish

    Mr Fish ...I Remember...

    Sep 11, 2010
    For fucks sake, no... Rage infected are NOT zombies.
     
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  13. Prone Squanderer

    Prone Squanderer A bit of a Sillius Soddus.

    Jan 3, 2016
    I was just going to mention that. Zombies are reanimated corpses, NOT infected people.
     
  14. Jogre

    Jogre It's all JO'Ger now

    Oct 25, 2015
    By a lot of people zombie is pretty much used as an umbrella term for anything that shambles around and tries to eat people.

    Yes it's technically incorrect, but I was kind of assuming that when most people refer to zombies, they mean that.
     
  15. Mr Fish

    Mr Fish ...I Remember...

    Sep 11, 2010
    It's not "technically" incorrect, it is simply flat out incorrect.
    And who cares what the other retards out there consider a "zombie"? They're the same ones that propagate garbage like the Transformers films and Justin Bieber to stardom.

    There are only two kinds of zombie.
    1. They die, they reanimate. They still dead, but also alive to various extents.
    2. You are possessed by a voodoo doctor, turning into what could be mistaken for a romero-zombie but you aren't dead, just basically a lobotomised slave.

    Whether they shamble around and eat people is irrelevant. All that needs to happen for the modern zombie is for someone to die and for their dead body to reanimate.

    The rage infected aren't dead, they are still alive and they do not eat people and even if they did it would be irrelevant.

    To put this in better perspective; The kind of people that think that Rage Infected are zombies are the type of people that would consider the changes from FNV to FO4 an improvement to the RPG aspect of the series.

    For fucks sake, WEREWOLVES are more like zombies than the Rage Infected. At least they eat people.
     
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  16. Jogre

    Jogre It's all JO'Ger now

    Oct 25, 2015
    I think that's a bit of a hyperbole to be honest.

    Your honestly comparing people who misuse a term to describe something, to people who flat out agree to a game which dumbs down every single mechanical aspect of the franchise.
     
  17. Mr Fish

    Mr Fish ...I Remember...

    Sep 11, 2010
    Too dumb to see how RPG elements are decreased, not improved, when you remove and alter stuff so that it is too limiting for proper roleplay.

    Too dumb to understand the difference between a modern zombie (alive>dead>dead but somehow alive again) and what clearly isn't a zombie (rabies on steriods).

    I don't see it as a hyperbole. :shrug:

    If anything, it is easier to understand what the term "zombie" means than it is to understand what type of RPG mechanics are important for roleplaying. Especially if you're relatively new to either of them.

    So someone mislabelling Rage Infected as zombies is 'worse' than FO4 apologist.

    I mean how can you possibly fuck up when it comes to labelling whether something is a zombie or isn't?
    Did it die and come back to life but still has no pulse? No? Then it's not a fucking zombie! That's it. That's the only criteria that really matters for a modern zombie. How is that possible to fuck up?
     
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  18. Walpknut

    Walpknut This ghoul has seen it all

    Dec 30, 2010
    Zombies are the Justin Bieber of horror.
     
  19. Mr Fish

    Mr Fish ...I Remember...

    Sep 11, 2010
    Overrated, shittily done and used to feed the masses with easy popcorn entertainment that has pretty much zero artistic value? As much as I love proper zombies, that pretty much fits what zombies have turned into. Regardless, it is no excuse to mislabel shit that ain't zombies as being zombies.
     
  20. omphaloskepsis

    omphaloskepsis First time out of the vault

    Dec 13, 2015
    This is pretty amusing considering that your dual definition requires the word to have gone through several steps of evolution in it's use, while simultaneously insisting that further evolution isn't allowed.

    And, also amusing, is that Romero's reimagining of the concept was inspired by Matheson's reimagining of the classic vampire.

    I don't exactly disagree, just wanted to point that out. I feel the same way when people use the term RPG.