Movie Thread

Discussion in 'General Discussion Forum' started by Serge 13, Nov 20, 2011.

  1. Atomkilla

    Atomkilla Hazel Hegemon oTO Orderite

    Dec 26, 2010

    The passage of time thing was intentional, because it varies. For the pilot, the whole thing last for an hour or so. For the sailor and his son it's a day. For the young soldier it's several days of ordeal.
    The narrative is very non-linear and seems condensed, but its actual length is over several days.

    As for the rest of what you've written, I can't really agree with most of the stuff. The film tried to portray the chaos, fear and hopelessness of soldiers who were in Dunkirk. It's anxiety-inducing and downright claustrophobic during some scenes. At the same time it got the whole "art" vibe to it, so it's an atypical war film.

    I'd go as far and say that it isn't an actual war film, at least in the general sense of what war films are. There's very little combat except for the dogfights, there's no clear focus of why and how is this all happening. You don't even get to see the Germans in the film - well, you get, but it's very little.
    The whole experience is so far away from the modern idea of war film and simply focuses on POV of three relatively ordinary characters in desperate situations. Who they are matters very little, the only thing that matters is what they're going through.

    I liked the film. It was interesting to see Nolan direct a historical film, and an art war film at that. Quite unconventional. Far from perfect tho.
     
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  2. TorontRayne

    TorontRayne Misanthropic God of Rations Staff Member Moderator Orderite

    Apr 1, 2005




    Just...
     
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  3. Hassknecht

    Hassknecht For hate's sake Admin Orderite

    Aug 16, 2010
    Just no.
    Although I guess with the current political climate we might see a resurgence of classic 80s Reagan-era action movies and plots. Loose cannons that play by their own rules but get results, that kind of stuff.
     
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  4. Walpknut

    Walpknut Testament to the ghoul lifespan

    Dec 30, 2010
    I think the very idea of wanting to induce anxiety or clausthrophobia on the viewer while leaving both the events and the characters themselves as alsmost inconsequeantial to be a pretty contradictory direction. I can't really feel suspense when the supposed tickling clocks makes no sense due to poor conveyance. I also can't care about a situation when the people involved have barely any character at all. If I have nothing to anchor to then I am taken completely out of the experience.

    No idea what an ""art" vibe" even is. This movie wasn't deep enough to actually convey any form of metaphor eithewr visual or literary for this to be considered an art film, same way the visuals are just too clean and Blockbuster esque for it to have any sort of unique style to anything. Dialogue was also sparse and the movie itself was very structureless.

    I also hear the "This isn't like Saving Private Ryan" as a defense for the movie (not saying you said it tho) and I think that's kind of a strawman defense that assumes too much about the other person.
     
  5. TorontRayne

    TorontRayne Misanthropic God of Rations Staff Member Moderator Orderite

    Apr 1, 2005
    PG13 alone made me not care too much. Ok, we get it you want to make more money.
     
  6. Walpknut

    Walpknut Testament to the ghoul lifespan

    Dec 30, 2010
    It also barely lasts more than 90 minutes...
     
  7. TorontRayne

    TorontRayne Misanthropic God of Rations Staff Member Moderator Orderite

    Apr 1, 2005
    Alien Covenant wasn't that great. That whole slasher movie thing? Definitely true for Alien Covenant.
     
  8. Buxbaum666

    Buxbaum666 Heterostructured Nanorod oTO Orderite

    Dec 5, 2003
    Finally watched The Mist. Definitely one of the better King adaptations. Bleak as fuck ending but that's how it should be. I'm glad we went straight for the black & white version, popped in the color disc afterwards and it looked horrible in comparison.
     
  9. TorontRayne

    TorontRayne Misanthropic God of Rations Staff Member Moderator Orderite

    Apr 1, 2005
    JUST NOW!? B&W hipster. Probably my favorite Stephen King adaptation besides The Shining...and neither one is like the book.
     
  10. Buxbaum666

    Buxbaum666 Heterostructured Nanorod oTO Orderite

    Dec 5, 2003
    I read the novella ages ago, I could only remember the basic outline but I know that I loved it.
    It's the director's preferred version so I went for that and I think it looked great. He wanted it to be B&W in the first place.
     
  11. TorontRayne

    TorontRayne Misanthropic God of Rations Staff Member Moderator Orderite

    Apr 1, 2005
    I know. I'm a huge fan. Even watched the commentary. ;)
     
  12. Hassknecht

    Hassknecht For hate's sake Admin Orderite

    Aug 16, 2010
    I like how the film's ending is so much more bleak than the novel's ending... And King himself likes it better.
     
  13. TorontRayne

    TorontRayne Misanthropic God of Rations Staff Member Moderator Orderite

    Apr 1, 2005
    What most people don't know is it actually ties into the Half-Life universe.
     
  14. Atomkilla

    Atomkilla Hazel Hegemon oTO Orderite

    Dec 26, 2010
    You talking about 2007 film?
    My parents love it and tried to get me to watch it, but for whatever reason I didn't. Guess I thought it was shitty.
     
  15. Hassknecht

    Hassknecht For hate's sake Admin Orderite

    Aug 16, 2010
    It definitely ties in with From A Buick 8 and the Dark Tower series by King himself. Didn't Valve say many times that the novella in part inspired Half Life?
     
  16. Buxbaum666

    Buxbaum666 Heterostructured Nanorod oTO Orderite

    Dec 5, 2003
    The Roland painting right at the beginning is certainly a giant hint. Then again, pretty much all of King's books have some kind of connection to TDT.
    I think I've read that The Mist was a direct influence on Half-life.
     
  17. Hassknecht

    Hassknecht For hate's sake Admin Orderite

    Aug 16, 2010
  18. testa

    testa First time out of the vault

    Aug 4, 2017
    O-bi, o-ba. The End of Civilisation. (1985)

    "Set in an underground dungeon/vault inhabited by bundled, ragged human beings, after the nuclear holocaust. The story follows the wanderings of a hero through the situations of survival. People wait for the Ark to arrive and rescue them while their habitat falls apart."
    http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0089714/
    full movie with eng sub on youtube.
     
  19. zegh8578

    zegh8578 Keeper of the trout Orderite

    Mar 11, 2012
    Just watched Who Framed Roger Rabbit, haven't seen since I was a kid, and I really like it! I liked it then, and it's a real fun watch now. It's also really well done, apart from only a couple of tiny details, the animation is pretty seamless with the live action.
     
  20. Walpknut

    Walpknut Testament to the ghoul lifespan

    Dec 30, 2010
    So yeah the Netflix Death Note movie was a piece of shit with almost no redeeming qualities.