Movie Thread

Discussion in 'General Discussion Forum' started by Serge 13, Nov 20, 2011.

  1. Ben Soto

    Ben Soto Professional Salt Shaker

    Jul 7, 2014
    That's just it. It's okay. The other DC films have been straight-up bad. People are praising what seems to be a massive improvement.
     
  2. joevonzombie

    joevonzombie Buried alive in Golgotha

    Sep 28, 2015
    There's where the disconnect is for me personally because I don't see it as a "massive' improvement. It's better than BVS and Suicide Squad, but MOS was a better movie despite that film turning Superman into a brooding idiot.

    Wonder Woman has a decent second act and they did a great job at hiding an incredibly bleak message about humanity in a tonally lighter movie, but outside of that, it's the first Captain America movie with a shit ton of Snydervision.
     
  3. Walpknut

    Walpknut Testament to the ghoul lifespan

    Dec 30, 2010
    The only truly good Marvel movie was the first Captain america movie and Wonder Woman wasn't even directed by Snyder so....

    I mean they are all superheroe movies but at least WW wasn't the same regurgitated formula all Marvel Movies have been since the first Avengers.
     
  4. joevonzombie

    joevonzombie Buried alive in Golgotha

    Sep 28, 2015
    Didn't say it was directed by Snyder but it does have his visual style written all over it.

    Wonder Woman is about as formulaic as origin stories get and I fail to see how it's any less formulaic than Doctor Strange. The only difference is that she's a woman which doesn't particularly matter to me. It was a film I've already seen multiple times over.
     
  5. Walpknut

    Walpknut Testament to the ghoul lifespan

    Dec 30, 2010
    It wasn't really like Dr Strange. It isn't stellar film making but it at the very least wasn't the same assembly line Merch commercial as the Marvel movies. And Snyder visual style is good, what's shaky are his narrative skills.
     
  6. R.Graves

    R.Graves Confirmed Retard

    Apr 21, 2016
    He writes his movies?
     
  7. Walpknut

    Walpknut Testament to the ghoul lifespan

    Dec 30, 2010
    He has writen the screenplay of a few, also in the end the way the story or the narrative is conveyed on screen is the work of the director and editor, a script is a base guideline at most.
     
  8. joevonzombie

    joevonzombie Buried alive in Golgotha

    Sep 28, 2015
    It followed the same tired origin story beats that Doctor Strange does and was designed to sell merchandise in the same way. If any of the DCEU films have followed Marvel's formula, it's this one. I'm not willing to give Patty Jenkins a participation trophy just because she was able to make a film that wasn't an overly ambitious mess.

    On a more positive note, I do think that Wonder Woman will fair better with me than the Justice League movie. My MoviePass has already paid for itself this month and still don't know if I'm going to see it.
     
  9. JohnnyEgo

    JohnnyEgo Mostly Harmless

    Oct 22, 2007
    I enjoyed Wonder Woman well enough for the $8 I spent on the ticket. Certainly more then most of what Marvel or DC have had to offer of late. I think the whole super hero thing peaked for me with 'The Dark Knight' and 'Winter Soldier' for DC and Marvel respectively. Everything else has been much of the same, with the exception of 'Deadpool' and 'Logan', which were very different tonally. The various Iron Man, Avengers, Guardians of the Galaxy, and assorted XMen movies have all merged into a hyper-kinetic mass of interchangeable plot points for the short attention span set to me. I'm not that interested in watching two hours of assorted darkness punctuated by loud noises to be a Snyder fan, either. Quite frankly, the most I have enjoyed a superhero story of late was probably Will Arnett's take on Batman in the Lego movie.
     
  10. joevonzombie

    joevonzombie Buried alive in Golgotha

    Sep 28, 2015
    Eh I'm in the same boat for the most part. Took the kids to see Lego Batman and wound up having more fun than they did, but I hold the incredibly unpopular opinion that in the end, The Dark Knight trilogy was incredibly flawed and those flaws were given a pass because it wasn't Shumacher bad (see the pattern?) which kicked off the reboot phase that the industry is still struggling with. Chris Nolan's take on Batman himself was easily the worst part of that series and Zack Snyder's fundamental misunderstanding of not only the source material, but why that trilogy of films was successful in the first place is why the DCEU is in the shape it's in now.

    As far this genre goes, I'm far more interested in seeing what Netflix does with The Punisher than Justice League and I'm excited to see what Fox does with New Mutants. It's an X-Men horror movie. We haven't traveled down that path yet.
     
  11. Walpknut

    Walpknut Testament to the ghoul lifespan

    Dec 30, 2010
    I think I would've enjoyed the Dark Knight movies (exept the third, that one is a turd) if people weren't Rick and Morty Fanboying all over it when they came out. Everybody creaming themselves about "MUH REALISM!" and saying "WHy so serious?" and thinking they were clever.
     
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  12. JohnnyEgo

    JohnnyEgo Mostly Harmless

    Oct 22, 2007
    I've watched all the Netflix series, and probably enjoyed the second season of Daredevil the most out of all of them. I am also looking forward to seeing what they can do with the Punisher. Other then Daredevil, I liked much of Luke Cage and parts of Jessica Jones were brilliant. However, the Iron Fist just didn't cut it for me. It's probably some form of comic book heresy to say this, but I thought AMC's Badlands had way better action scenes and more memorable characters, and was more viscerally fun to watch, at least in-between the angsty moments.
     
  13. Gonzalez

    Gonzalez Vault Fossil

    Aug 21, 2004
    Watched "Murder In The Orient Express" today. They didn't murdered the story (no pun intended) but they most certainly nearly murdered the character of Poirot by having him inconsecuentially and recurringly look at the picture of an old love interest and even talk to the damned thing. I was like WTF??? He only had one "love" interest in his life and it was completely platonic, this took way too much protagonism in the movie and served no purpose whatsoever. Also, Poirot figthing... yes, they actually involved him in a chase and a fight scene... Poirot...
     
  14. Walpknut

    Walpknut Testament to the ghoul lifespan

    Dec 30, 2010
    Did Poriot also get the Bullet time "deduction" shit they gave Sherlock Holmes?
     
  15. Arnust

    Arnust Maybe you've seen it, maybe, in a dream...

    Feb 2, 2016
    Rather, Guy Ritchie Mode. But without the kind of charm it had, that is. More of a BBC Sherlock, instead.
     
  16. Gonzalez

    Gonzalez Vault Fossil

    Aug 21, 2004
    I mean, at least Holmes knew how to box, but with Poirot we are talking about this guy.

    At least they got this right.
     
  17. joevonzombie

    joevonzombie Buried alive in Golgotha

    Sep 28, 2015
    So I bit the bullet and saw Justice League anyway because it was essentially free and it still wasn't worth the cost of entry. They went from a fundamental misunderstanding of why The Dark Knight Trilogy was successful to a fundamental misunderstanding of The Avengers. Ben Affleck phones in his performance, Ezra Miller is fucking cringe worthy and everything about Cavil's Superman in this felt painfully forced, like everyone involved simply threw up their hands and went "see we can do what you want. He's happy now, don't you like it?" This was a far more cynical take on the material than MoS or BVS to me and frankly, it was insulting. Man of Steel and BvS at least had balls. This was a live action Hanna-Barbera cartoon. This is what happens when you kick-off a cinematic universe based on the demands of your shareholders rather than actual interest in the material. Say what you want about Marvel, but they, at the very least, actually like the material and actually give a shit on some level.
    When Jason Momoa gives the most believable performance in a movie, you know you're in trouble.