People dislike Fallout 2?

Discussion in 'General Fallout Discussion' started by StemeMcPhie, Jul 22, 2017.

  1. R.Graves

    R.Graves Confirmed Retard

    Apr 21, 2016
    I would say the word broken fits more or less.

    Btw how did you feel about alien isolation? One of the best games in recent memory imo.

    Well that's just not true. A bad thing is still a bad thing regardless of how much you love it. I love the howard the duck movie. And I most definitely would not call it good nor would I give it a 10/10. Fun/10 =/= 10/10.
     
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  2. CT Phipps

    CT Phipps Half-way Through My Half-life

    Sep 17, 2016
    Well, that' a thing, I believe if you love Howard the Duck, you should rate it highly rather than feel constrained by the bullshit of some metric of what makes a good movie.
     
  3. R.Graves

    R.Graves Confirmed Retard

    Apr 21, 2016
    Well that would be lying wouldn't it? The movie is awful. Plain and simple. The fact that I enjoy it on such a high level does not make it objectively good. And review scores are meant to more objective rather than subjective. You can highlight whether or not something is fun but the numerical score is supposed to be objective.
     
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  4. CT Phipps

    CT Phipps Half-way Through My Half-life

    Sep 17, 2016
    That is literally everything wrong with reviews and what I hate in them. No offense to you. But it's why I find review scores fucking useless.

    To each their own.

    I don't want to know about graphics or gameplay as "good" but whether they made the experience enjoyable or not.
     
  5. R.Graves

    R.Graves Confirmed Retard

    Apr 21, 2016
    I think the best reviews are a combination of both. I don't think reviews should be 100% subjective but I don't want them to be sterile and 100% objective either.

    So what did you think of alien isolation?
     
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  6. Black Angel

    Black Angel Grand Inquisitor of the Ordo Hereticus

    Mar 21, 2016
    Exactly. Reviews should really find a sweet spot to balance subjectivity and objectivity. For example, you can state that you personally enjoy something and had fun with it, but also consider that compared to other stuff that's similar to it, it can be either better or worse because [insert reason here].
     
  7. R.Graves

    R.Graves Confirmed Retard

    Apr 21, 2016
    Nitpicking comedic reviews can be wildly entertaining. So that would be the third type of review.
     
  8. The King of The Worms

    The King of The Worms First time out of the vault

    Jul 28, 2017
    You play Fallout 2 when you want a more silly wasteland you play Fallout 1 when you want to see the wasteland at its worst.
     
  9. R.Graves

    R.Graves Confirmed Retard

    Apr 21, 2016
    The problem with fallout 2 is its too big, too campy, and too dumb. There is a lot of bad. There's is, however, a lot of good as well. Whether or not the good outweighs the bad is debatable. Whether or not its a good fallout game is debatable. I go back and forth a lot on that one. But at worst it's still a great game, imo.
     
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  10. Risewild

    Risewild Sonny, I Watched the Vault Bein' Built!
    Modder Orderite

    Jun 14, 2014
    True Story:

    When I was a kid (around 12 years old), me and a cousin found some rusty old bicycle parts that were in an old warehourse in the property I used to live. My dad had cleaned the storehouse and threw those bicycle parts away.
    I asked him if we (me and my cousin) could try and assemble a working bicycle out of them. He agreed and told us that we could use his old tools to assemble it and to ask him for parts if any were missing.
    After we had placed some wheels, oiled the chain and mounted the seat, we were ready to try it out despite we had no brakes or tires (there were none in the parts we had available).
    It run pretty good considering we couldn't really brake (so we could only ride slowly), we couldn't turn very well (if we tried, the metal wheel frames would skid on the pavement and we would end up falling on the ground) and once my cousin tried to do a wheelie and the front wheel detached from the bicycle and he crashed badly and hurt his arm. My dad came home from work later and gave us a lecture about safety and being responsible and not ride bicycles that do not have all the parts. He then decided that thing was too dangerous and took it to the scrapyard the same day.

    I had many bicycles over the years and I don't remember any of them except for my first ever one and that old broken one. While it was a deathtrap it was really fun.
    As bicycles go, I give it a 9/10 because it was a lot of fun :ok:.
    I think that if people use numerical rating systems, there is nothing stopping them from rating the fun in a numerical form too. If the game is really bad but it is fun to play, the reviewer can just assign all the low ratings to their specific parts and then have a fun factor rating that is high.
    Otherwise there is no point in having a review of the game except for "Is it fun? Yes/No", because that is all that the final score means.

    Now back on topic:
    Fallout 2 is my favorite game, but I definitely see how others might not like it, it has quite a few flaws, problems and stupid stuff. I don't mind the stupid stuff, I complain about the flaws and problems, but in global it also has a lot of great things that compensate for the bad for me.
    It is just like Graves said up there. ;-)
     
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  11. Prone Squanderer

    Prone Squanderer A bit of a Sillius Soddus.

    Jan 3, 2016
    That means The Room is a fucking masterpiece.


    You should watch it if you haven't. You'd really enjoy it.
     
  12. R.Graves

    R.Graves Confirmed Retard

    Apr 21, 2016
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  13. CT Phipps

    CT Phipps Half-way Through My Half-life

    Sep 17, 2016
    If you think that, you should rate it what you feel.

    I, again, highlight I am aware how other people did it and DELIBERATELY DID THE OPPOSITE.

    It's why I don't go to IGN or other sites because I only trust indie reviews.
     
  14. ThatZenoGuy

    ThatZenoGuy Residential Zealous Evolved Nano Organism

    Nov 8, 2016
    I kinda have to agree with CT a bit.

    I play a few games I rate as 'trash', because they're fun.

    But I rate games on their mechanics, story, etc.

    Fallout 3 can be fun, Borderlands can be fun, Starcraft 2 can be fun.

    But they're also trash.
     
  15. Prone Squanderer

    Prone Squanderer A bit of a Sillius Soddus.

    Jan 3, 2016
    I don't think anyone with any sense would trust IGN or the other big sites.

    The Room isn't a masterpiece, I was being sarcastic. It is still enjoyable though, so I fully understand your point. Repeat, I UNDERSTAND YOUR POINT.

    I still wouldn't rate The Room as 8/10 though, no matter how much I enjoyed it.

    Fallout 4 can be fun.
     
  16. ThatZenoGuy

    ThatZenoGuy Residential Zealous Evolved Nano Organism

    Nov 8, 2016
    Exactly, anything can be fun.

    Being kicked in the dick can be fun.
     
  17. 0wing

    0wing Все умрут, а я волномут

    Mar 23, 2015
    In a world of STALKER, Far Cry 2+, Dying Light and other 1st person sandbox games exist? Nah.
     
  18. Prone Squanderer

    Prone Squanderer A bit of a Sillius Soddus.

    Jan 3, 2016
    Hey if that floats your boat, who am I to judge?

     
  19. FreedomStalker

    FreedomStalker Still Mildly Glowing

    Apr 22, 2016
    Some people also enjoy watching the grass grow. I'm serious. I actually know such a person. But I could never see how being kicked in the dick would be fun for me.
     
  20. ThatZenoGuy

    ThatZenoGuy Residential Zealous Evolved Nano Organism

    Nov 8, 2016
    Masochists exist. ;P