Pillars of the Community

Discussion in 'Fallout 4' started by Tiny Tim, Mar 30, 2017.

  1. Tiny Tim

    Tiny Tim It Wandered In From the Wastes

    Sep 29, 2015
    This is a coincidence, right? I mean these clowns wouldn't be trying to insult obsidian.

    For those who don't know, the "pillars of the community" is a cult in fallout 4, supposed to be dedicated to bring things back to the way they were in the good old world. Upon meeting them the player finds out that they are actually scammers who demand all the player's stuff and then the player basically kills them, all in a typical unfunny bethesda way.
     
  2. Mr Fish

    Mr Fish ...I Remember...

    Sep 11, 2010
    I would say you're stretching but I always did find their faction name to be really really weird and forced.

    I don't think Bethesda is in any position to make fun of other studios out there.
     
  3. Millim

    Millim What the fuck is this for a shit?!

    Oct 13, 2010
    I really love how bitter Bethesda have gotten, it's adorable.
     
  4. Jogre

    Jogre It's all JO'Ger now

    Oct 25, 2015
    Coincidence.

    Bethesda just wanted a silly little quest-line(Like every single one of the quests in Fallout 4). Don't look too much in to it.
     
  5. Mr Fish

    Mr Fish ...I Remember...

    Sep 11, 2010
    I dunno man, awful lot of coincidences.
     
  6. Jogre

    Jogre It's all JO'Ger now

    Oct 25, 2015
    Not really, just a name that happens to involve "Pillars"
     
  7. Mr Fish

    Mr Fish ...I Remember...

    Sep 11, 2010
    And like I said, I find it to be a really strange name.
     
  8. Tiny Tim

    Tiny Tim It Wandered In From the Wastes

    Sep 29, 2015
    Yeah, it is. And the rest of the context is kind of reminiscent of obsidian. They claim the world is broken and that we should go back to the old ways (rpgs, fallout in particular). The ( gaming ) community worships them, but they apparently just want their money. (Unlike bethesda which is, like, the future.)

    I mean it does seem a bit far fetched but the name is suspiciously similar to PoE.


    ( i get a bit upset typing this )
     
  9. Walpknut

    Walpknut Testament to the ghoul lifespan

    Dec 30, 2010
    Even that would involve more nuance than Bethesda writers could conjure up in their whole lives.
     
  10. Kohno

    Kohno Mildly Dipped

    Jul 30, 2009
    Sounds more like a snarky reference to the segment of their own forum community that still existed prior to the FO4 launch and forum migration (but to my knowledge doesn't so much anymore) that wanted Fallout to be great again like it used to in the good old days, rather than a jab at Obsidian. "Pillars of the community" would fit that well.
     
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  11. Zyax

    Zyax There's no need to be upset

    Mar 14, 2016
    I mean you must be aware that the phrase "Pillar of the community" right? I mean really that's some serious mental gymnastics at work.
     
  12. Crni Vuk

    Crni Vuk M4A3 Oldfag oTO Orderite

    Nov 25, 2008
    We're talking about a company that made the power-armor gang and the tunnel-snakes (which rule!) and where the lead writer considers dead heads on a plate 'good writing'. I really doubt they did this to mock some other studio.
    The truth might be as simple as this, they just don't give a shit anymore.
     
  13. Tiny Tim

    Tiny Tim It Wandered In From the Wastes

    Sep 29, 2015
    no, i admit i'm not aware of such phrase, english is not my native language. It sounded odd to me, and strangely similar to pillars of eternity. What does it mean, then?
     
  14. Zyax

    Zyax There's no need to be upset

    Mar 14, 2016
    I apologize for assuming that you knew this based on language. The phrase "pillar of the community" generally means something that figuratively "props up" a community or place. For example: Say there is a small town and many poor people live there, there could be a locally owned grocery store that gives out food to the poor for free. This grocery store could be considered a "pillar of the community" as they are a force of good that "props up" everyone else around them, like a pillar. In Fallout 4 it's likely that they adopted this name because they want to sound like they're the one's that will lift up everyone around them.
     
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  15. Brivoo

    Brivoo Powered by Radiant AI

    Jan 20, 2016
    As @Zyrax said, it's just a term that refers to the most important people of a specific group, such as a neighbourhood or office. It's a complete coincidence, but even if it wasn't, I'd say the group is more of a snark at NMA and places like /r/Fallout which aren't as "appreciative" of Bethesda's efforts as their fans are.

    I'd also say it'd be a weird to have them reference Obsidian as if they have some sort of rivalry; the latter barely pops up on Bethesda's radar, and the only time they've ever interacted Obsidian made them a nice little game to rake in cash with.
     
  16. Walpknut

    Walpknut Testament to the ghoul lifespan

    Dec 30, 2010
    Every time I see anything from /r/Fallout it's always Bethesda worshiping.
     
  17. Brivoo

    Brivoo Powered by Radiant AI

    Jan 20, 2016
    I generally get the feeling /r/Fallout worships New Vegas and Bethesda fanwanking is quarantined to /r/fallout3 and 4, though I'm no expert.

    Anyway, my point stands.
     
  18. BigGuyCIA

    BigGuyCIA Where'd That 6th Toe Come From?

    Oct 26, 2016
    /r/Fallout is an echo chamber of "Fallout 4 had so many missed opportunities" followed shortly by "but it's still a good game."
     
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  19. SpookyBees

    SpookyBees hiding in a small hole in the middle of the desert

    Mar 12, 2017
    I don't think they care enough to insult another studio. I always saw it as one of the many dropped quests or something. I seriously doubt it's anything more than just more ghost content that was never fleshed out or put into the game but the left it in as a "Ah whatever fuck it, it's content right?"
     
  20. Risewild

    Risewild Vault Fossil
    Modder Orderite

    Jun 14, 2014
    I like to think Bethesda was self aware of their own Fallout 4 game and left little hints:

    I mean that just like the game's quest Pillars of the Community, people give Bethesda their hard earned money because of promises of a great end result, then people just keep coming back to give more money (DLCs) and at the end they still see nothing much of what was promised.

    It is the same with Emil's own character on Fallout 4, Parker Quinn who tries to scam the player with a fake card he says it's accepted by every vendor in the commonwealth (bonus points for Parker Quinn calling the player a retard even if he buys the card or not).

    Then we have the Super Mutant orders, "KILL, LOOT, RETURN".

    And we also have the Obsessed Fan letter to Hubris comics' editor: