/pol/shit, Or: How I learned to stop worrying and love the shitposting

Discussion in 'General Discussion Forum' started by Hassknecht, Jul 9, 2018.

  1. Pwener

    Pwener Tunnelers? They Don't Sound That Tough...

    Aug 15, 2017
    Bingo. I feel the same way. I'm familiar with some of their more intimate beliefs when it comes to treating nonconverts and it's quite chilling. From what I can tell, people who defend them and tell others to screw off when they're scrutinized are just ignorant as to what their little book actually teaches.
     
  2. TerminallyChill

    TerminallyChill Be excellent to each other.

    Feb 16, 2018
    I think you're conveniently forgetting the fact that most people are selectively religious. Go ask a bunch of different Christians their opinions on evolution, abortion, and gay marriage and I'm sure you'll get all kinds of answers. The "orthodox" beliefs of a religion don't automatically carry over to every individual.

    Oh right. Part of the Illuminati's master plan. Next step will be the lizard people. :roll:

    Yep, you're actually getting called out on your bullshit, so I guess it's time to make a lame excuse to get the fuck out of dodge.

    Really? Because that sounds exactly like human behavior to me. When it comes to minorities, everyone seems to forget that most people are inherently shitheads, regardless of race. People become racists because when you live in Bumfuck, Montana and you've only ever seen one black person in your life, chances are that black person is going to be an asshole. Not because he's black of course, but because he's a person.
     
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  3. Pwener

    Pwener Tunnelers? They Don't Sound That Tough...

    Aug 15, 2017
    You just lost all credibility. If you're ignorant on the subject then just say so or go and use google but don't insult me with conspiracy crap just because you're unaware of the subject being discussed.

    The rest of your "rebuttal" against me is just average internet fluff akin to what you can find in YouTube comment sections. Grow up and get educated son.

    Edit: No wait, I gotta add this part because it's hilarious.

    Called out on what? I said something and you said I was being a bigot. Nothing more. I then responded back... and that was it. What is this "getting called out on my bullshit?" Where is this coming from? Did you prove I'm a bigot? Hell naw. How old are you?

    Edit2: Don't answer that question, I actually don't care.
     
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  4. Cliffy McEdgeface

    Cliffy McEdgeface bitch I will cut you

    Jun 28, 2018
    I would disagree that most people are inherently shitheads. I would actually say that that is a really strange value to ascribe. I have to interact with many, MANY people in a given workday (many of whom I don't know from Adam) and while a few are jerks, grumps and asshats, most of them are actually pretty nice and polite (or they do a great job of faking it at the very least). It's true that under duress anyone's going to be a bit snippy, but what I'm seeing is that under the same situations as any other demographic the Muslims are frosty as fuck for some reason. As COWORKERS, they basically self-segregate into their own group and are bubbly and talkative amongst themselves, and yet act like they're keeping the world's biggest secret when anyone else tries to converse with them.

    To kind of add some more fuel to this fire: A while ago I had an assignment for a college class (World Religions focusing mostly on the "book" religions) where I was to visit various holy places and learn more about them, so to speak. The Jewish folks were very personable if slightly businesslike at times. The Episcopalians were exceedingly warm and friendly. The Muslims were initially warm and welcoming but quickly got frosty once they realized I wasn't there to convert. They were never outright impolite, but they became slightly taciturn and seemed to hurry the whole thing along in a way none of the other faiths did.
     
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  5. TerminallyChill

    TerminallyChill Be excellent to each other.

    Feb 16, 2018
    Somebody's mad. :lalala:

    Plenty of minorities in unfamiliar situations act how you just described, though. I went to school with tons of transplanted black kids from New York City and they did that at lunch. I also used to work with a bunch of Mexican immigrants at a resort and they did the same thing. Humans clique up with others who have similar backgrounds. There's nothing specifically 'Muslim' about that behavior.
     
  6. Cliffy McEdgeface

    Cliffy McEdgeface bitch I will cut you

    Jun 28, 2018
    There's a slight leap between birds of a feather flocking together and what I'm describing. I grew up in SoCal and I remember how the Hispanic kids tended to play together - but they didn't usually act like they had seen a space alien when a kid of a different demographic talked to them. (They didn't get along well with the black kids, for some reason, though.)
     
  7. Negativity

    Negativity Take a dirt nap

    Oct 19, 2017
    I've had good experiences with Muslims and bad experiences, a lot of my close friends were Muslims. I don't want to start a religious flame war but I've noticed that Muslims who more closely follow their religion are the ones that cause trouble, and the ones that are lenient are usually pretty good people. That means one of two things, either there's a problem with Islam, or I'm a Bigot. However I've also been told that people in Muslim countries are really nice.
     
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  8. Cliffy McEdgeface

    Cliffy McEdgeface bitch I will cut you

    Jun 28, 2018
    There are problems with Islam (see my earlier post re: the regressive reformations becoming more predominant) just as there were (still are, technically, but they're greatly diminished for the most part) issues with many Christian denominations and just as how certain sects of Judaism are actually kinda backwards. The fundies, the ones who take it all way too seriously, and the jerks looking for excuses to be jerks are probably always going to be there in any of the "book" religions and in some others besides. (even the Buddhists have their bad apples)
     
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  9. Pwener

    Pwener Tunnelers? They Don't Sound That Tough...

    Aug 15, 2017
    Somebody's trying to save face :lol:
     
  10. TheHouseAlwaysWins

    TheHouseAlwaysWins Still Mildly Glowing

    Nov 28, 2015
    If you dislike Islam for being a conservative culture then why do you support the west to become more conservative as a response to it?


    So you dislike Islam but prefer Catholicism which has the same kind of problems Islam has but is "nicer" about it and is outright idolatry? I take it you support Catholicism because it's a european religion, and theology doesn't matter to you jackshit right? The ten commandments?



    So what you said is not an argument.
     
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  11. TerminallyChill

    TerminallyChill Be excellent to each other.

    Feb 16, 2018
    We hate Muslims. Why? Because they hate us. Why do they hate us? Becuse we hate them.
     
  12. AureliusofPhoenix

    AureliusofPhoenix Centurion

    Jun 25, 2018
    If I may jump into this flame war :flameon:I honestly think all religions have their bad parts, as do all people (but I'll get to that). And it's true that most people are assholes, imo, and in my own experience. I live on the East Coast of the US, and lived in a Rhode Island ghetto named Central Falls for most of my life. A good anecdote for the people there is how if you're walking on the street and make eye contact, it's customary to nod or say "hello", and generally people will do it back. Do that in CF, and they'll generally respond with the Powder Ganger "You eyeballin' me?!"

    CF was also a predominantly Hispanic neighborhood, and I also observed what Pariah Dog said about them not liking the black kids for some reason. I have no clue why that was. Me being a whitey, I got along pretty well and my parents taught me from a young age to accept everyone until they give you a reason not to; and that mentality is one I still share.

    As for religion, my aforementioned parents were both raised Catholic; my dad's parents were old-school, off-the-boat-European, and my mom's birth parents were old-school, off-the-boat-Italian. Her adopted parents were old-school, off-the-boat Irish. So there's a lot of Catholicism bred into my family. And I can tell you that It's not without its faults. I recognized the hypocrisy from a young age, and when I learned about the Crusades and the atrocities committed against Muslims during it, I couldn't bring myself to remain Christian.

    That being said, I don't judge anyone who still is Christian, or any other religion for that matter, because I believe in coexistence. Halfway through my Junior year of high school, I converted to Norse Heathenism and haven't looked back since. And If there's one thing I can say, as a pagan, it's that I don't give any fuck what someone believes; but if they use it as an excuse to cause harm to others, then there's an issue raised for me. But most Muslims are peacefully practicing people, and don't want to harm anyone. And I don't think it's right to lump them in with the people who declare Holy Jihad, because they're two different types of people, worlds away ideologically.

    If you look at the Christian bible, there's a lot of shit in it that's literally insane. Old Testament God is less a "Loving Father" and more an "Unhinged Sociopath". But there's also good Christians, who are pacifists and use their religion to give them hope in dark times. Lumping them in with the Westboro Baptist Church is wrong. There are white supremacist followers of Asatru; lumping me in with them is wrong. I know I'm rambling a bit but I hope I got my point across. I feel like it's simply inaccurate to judge everyone based upon a small minority, because they don't define everyone as a whole in those certain religions or races or what have you.
     
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  13. Pwener

    Pwener Tunnelers? They Don't Sound That Tough...

    Aug 15, 2017
    If you couldn't get the joke with my Vatican post, then... well, I don't know what to say. Is this some new form of sarcasm?
     
  14. Hassknecht

    Hassknecht For hate's sake Admin Orderite

    Aug 16, 2010
    The Bible is fun, too.
    "
    22While they were enjoying themselves, some of the wicked men of the city surrounded the house. Pounding on the door, they shouted to the old man who owned the house, “Bring out the man who came to your house so we can have sex with him.”

    23The owner of the house went outside and said to them, “No, my friends, don’t be so vile. Since this man is my guest, don’t do this outrageous thing. 24Look, here is my virgin daughter, and his concubine. I will bring them out to you now, and you can use them and do to them whatever you wish. But as for this man, don’t do such an outrageous thing.”
    "
    Don't rape my guest, rape my daughter instead.
     
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  15. Cliffy McEdgeface

    Cliffy McEdgeface bitch I will cut you

    Jun 28, 2018
    I don't? Putting words in my mouth is a great way to upset me, just saying.

    EDIT: Also, I don't "hate" Muslims. I am critical of them and I have difficulty trusting them, but I do not hate them. Again, don't put words in my mouth, @TerminallyChill
     
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  16. Pwener

    Pwener Tunnelers? They Don't Sound That Tough...

    Aug 15, 2017
    They hate us because their religion tells them they should. Not too long ago I saw a video from a hidden camera planted in an Islam school and they were teaching kids that Hinduism was dumb and that does who practice it are dumb. That's called brainwashing.

    You forgot to mention the part where they get their father drunk and rape him for babies not long after this. Those girls weren't angels, just saying.

    Found it again;

     
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  17. Hassknecht

    Hassknecht For hate's sake Admin Orderite

    Aug 16, 2010
    Please don't double-post.
    Anyway,
    I think you mean the story of Lot and his daughters, which is in Genesis 19.
    "
    30 And Lot went up out of Zoar, and dwelt in the mountain, and his two daughters with him; for he feared to dwell in Zoar: and he dwelt in a cave, he and his two daughters.

    31 And the firstborn said unto the younger, Our father is old, and there is not a man in the earth to come in unto us after the manner of all the earth:

    32 Come, let us make our father drink wine, and we will lie with him, that we may preserve seed of our father.

    33 And they made their father drink wine that night: and the firstborn went in, and lay with her father; and he perceived not when she lay down, nor when she arose.

    34 And it came to pass on the morrow, that the firstborn said unto the younger, Behold, I lay yesternight with my father: let us make him drink wine this night also; and go thou in, and lie with him, that we may preserve seed of our father.

    35 And they made their father drink wine that night also: and the younger arose, and lay with him; and he perceived not when she lay down, nor when she arose.

    36 Thus were both the daughters of Lot with child by their father.

    37 And the first born bare a son, and called his name Moab: the same is the father of the Moabites unto this day.

    38 And the younger, she also bare a son, and called his name Benammi: the same is the father of the children of Ammon unto this day."

    What I posted came from the Book of Judges.
    The chapter ends funny, too:
    "
    25But the men would not listen to him. So the man took his concubine and sent her outside to them, and they raped her and abused her throughout the night, and at dawn they let her go. 26At daybreak the woman went back to the house where her master was staying, fell down at the door and lay there until daylight.

    27When her master got up in the morning and opened the door of the house and stepped out to continue on his way, there lay his concubine, fallen in the doorway of the house, with her hands on the threshold. 28He said to her, “Get up; let’s go.” But there was no answer. Then the man put her on his donkey and set out for home.

    29When he reached home, he took a knife and cut up his concubine, limb by limb, into twelve parts and sent them into all the areas of Israel. 30Everyone who saw it was saying to one another, “Such a thing has never been seen or done, not since the day the Israelites came up out of Egypt. Just imagine! We must do something! So speak up!”"
     
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  18. Atomkilla

    Atomkilla Hazel Hegemon oTO Orderite

    Dec 26, 2010
    This thread shows promise.
     
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  19. Hassknecht

    Hassknecht For hate's sake Admin Orderite

    Aug 16, 2010
    Old Testament is just hilarious. I mean, the guy just sends out his concubine to be raped, and when he finds her on the doorstep the next morning he just nonchalantly says "Get up", only to find that she has been raped to death. So the logical step is to take her body, cut her up and rally all the Israelites to wage war.
    Well, the good thing is that most of the Old Testament can be safely ignored when it comes to actual rules on how to behave if you're Christian.
     
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  20. TerminallyChill

    TerminallyChill Be excellent to each other.

    Feb 16, 2018
    Guaranteed if a serial killer did something like this today, people would react exactly the same. "It wasn't like this back in my day, rap music and video games have destroyed this world's morals."

    Meanwhile 2000 years ago.