Praise for the Metro!

Discussion in 'General Gaming and Hardware Forum' started by Plautus, Jan 6, 2015.

  1. Crni Vuk

    Crni Vuk M4A3 Oldfag oTO Orderite

    Nov 25, 2008
  2. eissa

    eissa Gall óGlaigh Lady of War

    Jan 7, 2016
    maybe this is open world metro will be..

    (notice the colour palette)

     
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  3. Mr muggyman 3000

    Mr muggyman 3000 Lover of coffe cups

    May 3, 2016
    That looks way to bright and colorful to be a metro game
     
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  4. eissa

    eissa Gall óGlaigh Lady of War

    Jan 7, 2016
    its remind me of crysis 3 color scheme. who knows? maybe the radiation finally clear off and all that remain are marshes and lots of water from nuclear winter (aka Nuclear summer :D ).

    aaannd...the image is offcial

    baa dumm tsst
    :drummer:
     
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  5. CerberusGate

    CerberusGate I should save my game in a whole new slot

    Jun 6, 2016
    Hail Metro! Atmosphere and setting are what makes Metro so good. While post-apocalyptic, the places that you visit never feel like angst ridden hellholes that are one dimensional but actual places where people are still trying to get by and live in (watching how people live in the two games is always fascinating to me). It helps that the writing for several characters portray them as humans with complex motivations and loyalties rather than one dimensional characters. I like the games from a writing perspective. The bullet sponge bosses are annoying though. Hopefully there will be a third Metro game since Last Light was a while ago.

    Looks like the Dark Ones have begun cleaning up the surface or there is not as much damage than they thought.
     
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  6. Crni Vuk

    Crni Vuk M4A3 Oldfag oTO Orderite

    Nov 25, 2008
    Depends how many years have passed, there really might be not much damage left to see. Someoen remembers this, what if humans would be gone? Videos. Well, if they are to believed it would take just a couple of decades before you would have a very hard time to find traces of humanity. Most buildings would colapse, rivers, plantlife and animals would reclaim the cities and strange enough ... the great Wall and the Pyramids would soon remain the only really visible objects made by humans ...
     
  7. CerberusGate

    CerberusGate I should save my game in a whole new slot

    Jun 6, 2016
    True, erosion and lack of maintenance would slowly erase all traces of humanity and the damage would not be evident at first glance. I think I saw a documentary of a similar vein to aforesaid videos.

    Though if I recall, the nuclear apocalypse in Metro was a rather recent event since Artyom recalls a brief life on the surface as a child before the missiles rained down on the surface and in the setting, there are older people attempting to keep the knowledge of the surface (like normal animals) alive for the children in the Metro.
     
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  8. eissa

    eissa Gall óGlaigh Lady of War

    Jan 7, 2016
    interestingly, we already have those. look at the chernobyl and pripyat, those place were full of life eventhough the radiation were more severe than a aftermath of dirty bomb fallout dust
     
  9. Crni Vuk

    Crni Vuk M4A3 Oldfag oTO Orderite

    Nov 25, 2008
    I just hope they won't make this completely an open world game. We seriously have already enough open world shooters ... and there are also more on the horizon.
     
  10. eissa

    eissa Gall óGlaigh Lady of War

    Jan 7, 2016
    whats the problem with open world?
    i'm sure exploring "open world" metro is not same as in farcry or new vegas, but rather like how you backtracking and explore tunnel in fallout 3 because the collapsing building in surface. i mean, who is not want to explore all this station?

     
  11. Crni Vuk

    Crni Vuk M4A3 Oldfag oTO Orderite

    Nov 25, 2008
    Because open world games are very different to the tight and confined narrative you had with Metro 1 and 2. Or if you want Half Life, Fear etc. I am not saying open world games can't have a great story or awesome gameplay. I like Open world games. I just don't want everything to be open world, just because it is the new shit right now. What I always liked about games is diversity. And you can not denny that many open world games feel very similar and formulaic. For example, very few open world games can create a sense of urgency. Simply because that is completely detrimental to the design princple of open world games. I very much would prefer some kind of hybrid here. Think about Witcher 1 or Witcher 2, where it was not completely open, but more about instances that you could explore with your own pace. But once a chapter was done, you had no way to return to it.
     
  12. eissa

    eissa Gall óGlaigh Lady of War

    Jan 7, 2016
    this is was a alpha metro when it was demonstrated back in 2009. the developer didn't like it well enough, so what you get is the one that closer to the book.

    but, no return? i dont want it. the 4a is surely talented, i have faith that they will execute it well no matter if it were open world or not. we are talking about studio that produce AAA game with 10%budget of far cry or CoD games. plus the cold of kiev in ukraine
     
  13. Crni Vuk

    Crni Vuk M4A3 Oldfag oTO Orderite

    Nov 25, 2008
    It's not just about how well excecuted it is. Again, I LIKE(!) open world games ... it's just that it can get very boring, particularly when it is used like a gimick. Name me one open world game that is not grindy at some point. Because simply put, they almost all work very similar here. Metro simply put, never was an open world game. So the change here is quite huge. So it will definetly feel very different to the previous games. Here again ... I like Open world games, just as much like the next guy. But I feel that the decision to make Metro open world, was more a marketing decision than anything else.
     
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  14. Irwin John Finster

    Irwin John Finster Sonny, I Watched the Vault Bein' Built!

    Nov 13, 2015
    Nothing wrong with open world, but a lot of recent games have been lazy open world games full of repetitive crap "quests" that involve boring unlock/upgrade systems and a terrible story. I'd call it "Open World Syndrome."

    I would like an open world Metro RPG, but only if it's made by developers who understand the value of Metro and post-apocalyptic RPGs (not Bethesda).

    Metro has a very rich universe that is wasted on linear FPS games, because it just moves you through a themepark ride showing off all the cool parts of the world without letting you interact with it at all or talk to anyone. RPGs are much better for such a rich and immersive fictional universe.
     
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  15. eissa

    eissa Gall óGlaigh Lady of War

    Jan 7, 2016
    the kshatriya mission from the chronicle pack gives a glimpse of what open world metro could be.

    a seemingly linear level with multiple route (due to the metro tunnel ) and random mutant spawn.
     
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  16. 0wing

    0wing Все умрут, а я волномут

    Mar 23, 2015
    Despite the highest quality, Metro Last Light is somewhat a disappointment. 4A add too much to bump immersion and add visible paths to choices yet remain linear horror-FPS and LL still asks nicely for main character to talk yet he still play speechless. Play because he still talks in the loading screens. :facepalm: Open world or not, the Deus Ex-like game design should work fine here.
    The story now has a hollywood movie vibe trapped in unsuitable game for this. I still ask for female sniper not so nicely to stay away from the story.
     
  17. 0wing

    0wing Все умрут, а я волномут

    Mar 23, 2015
    If Gluhovsky wrote the script for Last Light then what's non-canon now - Metro 2034 or Last Light? The storyline from 2033 and 2034 ties together in Metro 2035. Where's LL's place?
     
  18. Izak

    Izak I Shot The ALBATROSS

    Jan 29, 2016
    Last Light's place is in the video game series, the books are an entirely separate canon.
     
  19. Hassknecht

    Hassknecht For hate's sake Admin Orderite

    Aug 16, 2010
    Yeah, it's not like the video games followed the books very closely to begin with.
     
  20. 0wing

    0wing Все умрут, а я волномут

    Mar 23, 2015
    Did anyone read the book itself? Don't you find it messy, like Fallout 3's lore messy?