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Recent movies (last 20 years or so) that you'd consider a classic or a potential future classic?

Discussion in 'General Discussion Forum' started by R.Graves, May 12, 2018.

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  1. R.Graves

    R.Graves Confirmed Retard

    Apr 21, 2016
    I'm not gonna set a definition for what a classic is.
    There are different kinds. I mean robocop is not classic in the same way that goodfellas is. Then we have cult classics... it's best we each go from our own frame of reference I'd say.

    I guess there's three types if we had to force it.

    Blockbuster type: made a load of money on release and has mass appeal

    Niche type: made for a more niche audience. It wouldnt have near the same mass appeal as say die hard or predator.

    Cult type: didn't make bank on release but found its audience later on home video release. This would be your clerks or you evil deads. I'd be surprised to see someone name one of these from the last 20 years.

    Anyways 15 years ago this barrel of fun was unleashed.

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    This is... it's just great. I've got mixed feelings about all of its sequels, especially 2 and 5, but this one is just great. It's got everything a blockbuster type classic needs. Great action, fun story, a good villain, likeable characters, and a memorable score. Not much more I can say, really.
     
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    R.Graves, May 12, 2018
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  2. TorontRayne

    TorontRayne This ghoul has seen it all
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    Apr 1, 2005






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    Here are four movies I consider classics released in the past two decades.
     
    TorontRayne, May 12, 2018
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  3. R.Graves

    R.Graves Confirmed Retard

    Apr 21, 2016
    Fuck yeah gran torino. Where the main character can literally be defined as "a racist with a heart of gold". Thanks for reminding me to plop that bluray into my amazon cart.
     
    R.Graves, May 12, 2018
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  4. TorontRayne

    TorontRayne This ghoul has seen it all
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    Apr 1, 2005
    If you like Clint Unforgiven is a must.
     
    TorontRayne, May 12, 2018
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  5. R.Graves

    R.Graves Confirmed Retard

    Apr 21, 2016
    Already own that tbh.
     
    R.Graves, May 12, 2018
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  6. TorontRayne

    TorontRayne This ghoul has seen it all
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    Apr 1, 2005
    I thought you mentioned it before but I was unsure. Have you watched Phantasm?
     
    TorontRayne, May 12, 2018
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  7. R.Graves

    R.Graves Confirmed Retard

    Apr 21, 2016
    Naw but they got it up at wal mart. Should I get it?
     
    R.Graves, May 12, 2018
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  8. TorontRayne

    TorontRayne This ghoul has seen it all
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    Apr 1, 2005
    At least watch the first two. It goes off into B movie territory around Phantasm 5 (Ravager) but it's pretty good. If you watched Tremors 6 watch the Phantasm series. Also John Dies at the End.
     
    TorontRayne, May 12, 2018
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  9. joevonzombie

    joevonzombie Buried alive in Golgotha

    Sep 28, 2015
    Dog Soldiers, The Guest.
     
    joevonzombie, May 12, 2018
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  10. Atomkilla

    Atomkilla Hazel Hegemon oTO Orderite

    Dec 26, 2010
    John Wick trilogy is the future's Die Hard.
     
    Atomkilla, May 13, 2018
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  11. BigGuyCIA

    BigGuyCIA Vault Dweller

    Oct 26, 2016
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    Also any Quentin movie.
     
    BigGuyCIA, May 15, 2018
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  12. R.Graves

    R.Graves Confirmed Retard

    Apr 21, 2016
    Okay no. Just no. That movie was like a 6/10 at best.
     
    R.Graves, May 16, 2018
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  13. BigGuyCIA

    BigGuyCIA Vault Dweller

    Oct 26, 2016
    It was beautifully shot. A lot of throwbacks to Hitchcock-ian film work.
     
    BigGuyCIA, May 16, 2018
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  14. R.Graves

    R.Graves Confirmed Retard

    Apr 21, 2016
    Not really. It was bleh and the story was insultingly stupid for the kind of movie it was trying to be. You wanna see a well shot movie? Barry lyndon.
     
    R.Graves, May 16, 2018
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  15. BigGuyCIA

    BigGuyCIA Vault Dweller

    Oct 26, 2016
    I take it you didn't like the political & social commentary it was making.
     
    BigGuyCIA, May 16, 2018
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  16. R.Graves

    R.Graves Confirmed Retard

    Apr 21, 2016
    Not really there wasnt any social commentary to speak of. Aside from the scene with the cop that overall feels out of place. Or if there was maybe that's why the plot feels so jilted and forced.
     
    R.Graves, May 16, 2018
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  17. MutantScalper

    MutantScalper Dark side in da houssah

    Nov 22, 2009
    Maybe Black Hawk Down but I'm not saying it's a perfect movie, just that in terms of spectacle it's pretty high up there especially I guess when seen in a movie theater. In a way that BHD isn't politically correct sort of makes it interesting to look at.
     
    MutantScalper, May 16, 2018
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  18. BigGuyCIA

    BigGuyCIA Vault Dweller

    Oct 26, 2016
    The beginning part? She was using the race-card to avoid a paper trail (the cop wanted to see his ID). The whole scene was a play on western feminism aligning themselves with disparaged groups when it's convenient (cop scene), and kicking them to the curb when the gig is up (when he asks her to find the keys so they can leave).
     
    BigGuyCIA, May 18, 2018
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  19. R.Graves

    R.Graves Confirmed Retard

    Apr 21, 2016
    I guess but that really feels like grasping at straws for symbolism. Overall the plot suffers in favor of wierd awkward forced social commentary. Example: all the white people literally turning into black people. a allegory for cultural appropriation i guess. The movie adresses this in dialogue. Plot reason given: "lol who knows"
    That's not good writing. In fact it's kind of shit.
     
    R.Graves, May 18, 2018
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  20. BigGuyCIA

    BigGuyCIA Vault Dweller

    Oct 26, 2016
    Not cultural appropriation but more so the consumption of black bodies. It's a throw back to the slavery era and how they're desired for their physical attributes. Near the end remember how the daughter is researching college athletes and potential draft picks?

    The grandfather is obsessed with being a fast runner so he pilots a black man (seen running at night). The grandmother wants to be young and beautiful again so she pilots a young, college aged black woman (seen admiring her reflection by Chris).

    The women at the party were groping Chris and touching him inappropriately because they saw him as a plaything and not a human being. The other black guy he sees at the party is literally just a stud (mandingoism).

    The art dealer, Jim, was a parallel to people that claim to not be racist but actively and enthusiastically participate in a system that preys on black people. The whole movie is basically "it's ok to be black but only when white people are in control - literally."
     
    BigGuyCIA, May 18, 2018
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