Can this "argument" just fuck right off along with anyone that uses it? I'm so sick and tired of this stupid argument and i lose respect for anyone that uses this seriously. I think Oblivion, Skyrim, Fallout 3 and Fallout 4 to be pure trash because they are pure trash. These games could have been made by any other company and i would still judge them as shit. Quit misdirecting our criticism of these games to the company that made them.