Sequels that are at least debatbly better than their predecessors? (All genres and mediums)

Discussion in 'General Discussion Forum' started by R.Graves, Oct 1, 2017.

  1. The Dutch Ghost

    The Dutch Ghost Grouchy old man of NMA Moderator

    Jan 11, 2004
    Do remember that Metal Gear Solid was sort of a remake of Metal Gear 2 Solid Snake.

    I actually found that game a bit more enjoyable but that is probably because I enjoy 8 bit/ 18 bit sprite graphics. It wasn't as verbose as MGS sometimes was.
    It did have some ridiculous elements that broke away from the seriousness of the story and setting such as using an owl to convince a guard that it is night time. Doesn't the guy see the sun in the sky to realize that that is not so?

    Other that the MGS3 tend to be more filled with cutscenes in every part one thing I also did not like about MGS3 is that when option are offered to go full action such as when I found a couple of machine gun turrets on a mountain range with which I could take down a patrolling HIND helicopter that doing so will always get you into trouble.

    Every time I entered a new map I felt I had to sneak around and knock out all the guards in order to proceed.
     
  2. Walpknut

    Walpknut This ghoul has seen it all

    Dec 30, 2010
    Persona 4 is better than Persona 3 in every aspect other than music, and Persona 5 is better than Persona 4 in every aspect.

    Gungrave Overdose is more fun than the first Gungrave despite the aesthetics downgrade.
     
  3. TerminallyChill

    TerminallyChill Be excellent to each other.

    Feb 16, 2018
    Yeah, I would have to agree with you on the reboot thing. That's probably the best way to describe what Human Revolution is to Deus Ex. Reminds me of how while I love the first two Mad Max movies to death, I also think that Fury Road is great in its own way.

    Strictly speaking gameplay, though? It's gotta be Human Revolution for me. Roll around between cover like a fucking stray tire for a couple minutes and tell me you don't feel like Chuck Norris's cyberpunk offspring.
     
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  4. Crni Vuk

    Crni Vuk M4A3 Oldfag oTO Orderite

    Nov 25, 2008
    I like the gameplay of HR, it's quite good, however I think the first game required a bit more thinking tough as it was quite difficult to master every aspect from the game without specialising, from lock picking, to hacking, using stealth or shooting your way trough, it was not impossible of course but the game mechanic was a bit less forgiving. In HR I never had the feeling like I HAD to specialise in anything as the game gave me the augmentations on a silver plate. I liked the fact that most areas gave you several ways to solve a situation, but I never had to leave my comfortzone in the game. If you really wanted to achieve that in the first Deus Ex, you really had to KNOW the game by heart to do that, knowing all the extras, the bonuses and secrets.
     
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  5. TerminallyChill

    TerminallyChill Be excellent to each other.

    Feb 16, 2018
    You've got a point with the over abundance of Praxis Points. Even on the hardest difficulty, I felt like they were a little too generous with the upgrades in Human Revolution. Would have been nice to struggle for a while, plus that helps with replay value. The original had a lot of that.

    I just always found myself saying "Hey can I do this? Holy shit, you can." more in Human Revolution. I still remember throwing a barrel across the room in one level and literally running past a bunch of stupid guards who went to stare at it. Hilarious.
     
  6. Norzan

    Norzan A Smooth-Skin

    Apr 7, 2017
    Mother 3 is far better than Earthbound to me. It's one of those series that gets better with every game.
     
  7. TorontRayne

    TorontRayne This ghoul has seen it all
    Staff Member Moderator Orderite

    Apr 1, 2005
    The world design is inferior enough to make me dread a replay.
     
  8. Norzan

    Norzan A Smooth-Skin

    Apr 7, 2017
    Completely disagree, found Earthbound's world design to be much worse. A lot of areas were way too spacious for their own good and it would lead to a lot of time of you just walking around for a while. Mother 3's world is much more compact, with a lot less filler, while not feeling small.
     
  9. TorontRayne

    TorontRayne This ghoul has seen it all
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    Apr 1, 2005
    While true it gave the world a feeling of realism. Plus the locations were unique unlike Mother 3 which I struggle to recall the areas of.
     
  10. Norzan

    Norzan A Smooth-Skin

    Apr 7, 2017
    Sometimes realism is not a good thing. And i'm the opposite. i struggle to recall a lot of areas in Earthbound because after a while they would start to blend in with each other, while i remember most of them from Mother 3.
     
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  11. TorontRayne

    TorontRayne This ghoul has seen it all
    Staff Member Moderator Orderite

    Apr 1, 2005
    I can name them from memory.

    I do know what you mean for sure though. Mother 3 does not waste your time at all.



    This location is awful.

    But the main towns/cities are classic. The first two are alike but the rest are all totally unique.
     
  12. Norzan

    Norzan A Smooth-Skin

    Apr 7, 2017
    I honestly had to google which area from which game that one is from and it's from Earthbound. And now i remember not enjoying that area very much.

    I do still like Earthbound and think it's a pretty good game.
     
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  13. Pariah Dog

    Pariah Dog bitch I will cut you

    Jun 28, 2018
    Earthbound was such a charming and pleasant game (mostly, a few parts were really fucking annoying) that it was pretty much my 50-something mother's gateway drug into video gaming
     
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  14. Walpknut

    Walpknut This ghoul has seen it all

    Dec 30, 2010
    Breath of the Wild is the single best game in the entire Zelda Series.

    Minish Cap is better than any other 2D Zelda game.
     
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  15. R.Graves

    R.Graves Confirmed Retard

    Apr 21, 2016
    Jak II is a far different animal than its its predecessor in both tone and gameplay. its like comparing GTA to Banjo Kazooie. either way not accounting for the most inconsitent checkpoint markers in gaming history id say Jak II is a far more entertaining and rewarding experience than the first. not that the first wasnt a great game. then again maybe it wasnt idk my soft spot for collectathons may be clouding my judgment on that one.
     
  16. SquiglyContiello

    SquiglyContiello It Wandered In From the Wastes

    Jan 3, 2018
    That game is pure crap for the minish cap alone.
     
  17. Walpknut

    Walpknut This ghoul has seen it all

    Dec 30, 2010
    Not really, one of the most creative Zeldas, the minish cap is used to give a second layer to almost every area.
     
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  18. Norzan

    Norzan A Smooth-Skin

    Apr 7, 2017
    Kind of rare to see someone say this, most of the time i just hear people say it's either good, alright or crap. Myself, i enjoy the game quite a lot.

    I do think the hate for Ezlo is overblown and it's usually used an argument to call the game crap. He's much less annoying than Navi and yet Ocarina of Time is put on this pedestal as some holy grail of gaming.
     
  19. Pariah Dog

    Pariah Dog bitch I will cut you

    Jun 28, 2018
    Navi was bad, Tatl was worse IMO.
     
  20. Walpknut

    Walpknut This ghoul has seen it all

    Dec 30, 2010
    Tatl was better than Navi, for the sole reason that her Jingle was changed from an annoying voice to just a bell that you could ignore without getting grating.