STAR WARS: THE LAST JEDI (HUGE SPOILERS EVERYWHERE)

Discussion in 'General Discussion Forum' started by CT Phipps, Dec 18, 2017.

  1. Arnust

    Arnust Maybe you've seen it, maybe, in a dream...

    Feb 2, 2016
    Not only that but she did something no jedi, or human being in general, has ever managed ever before which is to survive a 200% certain death! Was funny too how they want to make dramatic them getting stuch at a dead end when she could just push away the rocks probably just as fine as Rey, even if it just was small pushes from above to below to get rid of the pile LOL
     
  2. BigGuyCIA

    BigGuyCIA Mildly Dipped

    Oct 26, 2016
    Yes! I would have preferred to see her sacrifice herself to save the rebellion (that hyperdrive suicide run the pink haired lady did). As it stands, the scene just goes from point A to point B back to point A. Her space scene is entirely pointless because it only serves to tell us that she can use the force (which I have no problem with because in ROTJ they established that Luke could/would teach her).
     
  3. Hassknecht

    Hassknecht For hate's sake Admin Orderite

    Aug 16, 2010
    Luke did survive a few jumps through space in the old EU, at least :D
     
  4. Atomkilla

    Atomkilla Hazel Hegemon oTO Orderite

    Dec 26, 2010
    Didn't Leia become a Jedi Master in EU too?
     
  5. Arnust

    Arnust Maybe you've seen it, maybe, in a dream...

    Feb 2, 2016
    And a torpedo blast to the face?
     
  6. Hassknecht

    Hassknecht For hate's sake Admin Orderite

    Aug 16, 2010
    He did survive some heavy stuff, but no.
    And for his space jumps he put himself into a Jedi trance and was only out for a few seconds.
     
  7. Arnust

    Arnust Maybe you've seen it, maybe, in a dream...

    Feb 2, 2016
    Also, it's funny how First Order ships suffer of extreme chain reactions on any significant damage while the Rebel ships' command center (and assumedly piloting room) get blown up and everyone's fine :lol:
     
  8. Hassknecht

    Hassknecht For hate's sake Admin Orderite

    Aug 16, 2010
    Mon Calamari cruisers are known for their super efficient plot armor.
    Man, they could have just used one of these to hyperdrive through the second Death Star. Would have saved the Millenium Falcon's antenna dish.
     
  9. BigGuyCIA

    BigGuyCIA Mildly Dipped

    Oct 26, 2016
    We need a Star Wars standalone film to explain whether or not the Falcon's antenna dish was replaced or not.

    It would be literally 5 minutes long and people would still defend it as being artistic and profound.
     
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  10. Hassknecht

    Hassknecht For hate's sake Admin Orderite

    Aug 16, 2010
    It's in the newest edition of "Star Wars Cross Sections". The old antenna was broken off during the attack on the second Death Star, so it was replaced with a new one. Apparently, the old round antenna dish was some sort of military dish, and the new rectangular is a stock model.
    Makes all the X-Wing and TIE Fighter games look silly, because all the YT-1300 transports in those games all have the round antenna :D
     
  11. Crni Vuk

    Crni Vuk M4A3 Oldfag oTO Orderite

    Nov 25, 2008
    As long it features Vader too, and Yoda. You know, for market value.

    Also, Disney has plans. They have oh such great plans ...


     
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  12. RangerBoo

    RangerBoo Vault Fossil

    Jun 15, 2015
    I really don't think Disney has any plans for Star Wars. Even the director of The Last Jedi, Rian Johnson, stated that when he was hired by Disney to be the director that Disney had no plan what so ever for what the direction that the new Star Wars trilogy was going to take after The Force Awakens. Such love and care for a franchise that they just had to have really reminds me of Bethesda treatment of the Fallout series. Fuck the lore and everything else about the series. We need to keep pandering to millennial's and milk this cow until there is nothing left of it but bones.
     
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  13. The Dutch Ghost

    The Dutch Ghost Grouchy old man of NMA Moderator

    Jan 11, 2004
    I suspect that after the mixed reactions and failed expectations of Lucas' Star Wars prequels, and Disney playing on the nostalgia the audience has about the original trilogy with The Force Awakens that a lot of people thought that Disney would be the saviors of the franchise or true heirs to Lucas, but forgetting why Disney has earned itself the reputation as "soulless corporation".

    Oh I am not trying to defend Lucas as during his own stint he has done plenty of endeavors to play on Star Wars (and lesser extend Indiana Jones)'s commercial properties and possibilities. But what did people expect from a corporation whose main goal is by playing on people's sentimentality.
    Them doing a 180 degree turn and suddenly developing creative integrity?

    There are creative people with Disney and its associated companies, but what Disney's head staff only wants is that people watch the movies (several times) and then go out to buy the merchandise such as the action figures. the lunch box, the bed sheet, the temporary tattoos etc.
    They don't care much about providing a quality product that meets people's expectations, and that has only become much easier for them to do as apparently a lot of Star Wars fans don't know what they want.

    Disney mostly wants the awards and the good ratings on places like Rotten Tomatoes and Meta critics as these movies are intended to make money over a longer period, and able to say that all the critics and disgruntled fans are a bunch of idiots who make fun about a movie primarily intended for kids. (rather a contrast to the original trilogy which was meant for young adults and older)

    Disney's creativity like that of so many companies is mostly the result of market meetings and planning.
     
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  14. Hassknecht

    Hassknecht For hate's sake Admin Orderite

    Aug 16, 2010
    Has anyone read the "Aftermath" novels, btw? They seem to explain a lot that led to the First Order...
    And also contain a black female Grand Admiral of the Empire (and one of the first leaders of the First Order) and a genderfluid pirate that commandeers a Super Star Destroyer.
     
  15. Walpknut

    Walpknut This ghoul has seen it all

    Dec 30, 2010
    Disney has a plan for Star Wars, it's making mone in the safest way possible, take full advantage of the toxic nature of the modern online world to feed off the controversy and the drama, pander very carefully to certain mindsets to create a virulently loyal fanbase and splice in a bit of superficial "breaking new ground" while just churning out the same rehashing of the original trilogy. Planning for a coherent story is irrelevant for them, that's like dumb games for kids, the thing they gotta plan is the marketing and the astro turfing.
     
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  16. Hassknecht

    Hassknecht For hate's sake Admin Orderite

    Aug 16, 2010
    Certainly looks like it. Too bad.
    I do like the diverse casting of the new movies, it just makes sense and they got some awesome actors in. Sad that they're wasting it on boring and useless characters.
     
  17. Walpknut

    Walpknut This ghoul has seen it all

    Dec 30, 2010
    Is the casting actually diverse? All the main characters are white, the only one who wasn't in the first movie was Finn and he was mostly comedy relief, in the second movie they added the asian girl Rose, and they put her and FInn in a B-plot that didn't have much influence while they discarded the romance between Fin and Rey in favor of pairing her up with the white main villain. The only diversity is on the extras who have no lines or names, like I said it's that trademark superficial "subversion" and "progressimsmsmsms" that they can use for the marketing and astro turfing without actually having to do much different.
     
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  18. Atomkilla

    Atomkilla Hazel Hegemon oTO Orderite

    Dec 26, 2010
    Screw diversity, we want good stories.
     
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  19. Walpknut

    Walpknut This ghoul has seen it all

    Dec 30, 2010
    They aren't mutually exclusive tho.

    What is mutually exclusive to each other is the modern Star Wars Sequels and Good stories.
     
  20. Atomkilla

    Atomkilla Hazel Hegemon oTO Orderite

    Dec 26, 2010

    True, they aren't, but some of the comments makers of TFA put out during its run would make you believe otherwise.