Why do so many people love Skyrim but hate Fallout 4?

Discussion in 'General Gaming and Hardware Forum' started by ironmask, May 13, 2018.

  1. Norzan

    Norzan Water Chip? Been There, Done That

    Apr 7, 2017
    Yeah, gonna completely disagree. The Dark Brotherhood questline of Oblivion is better written than all of the quests of Skyrim combined. It's not perfect, but it's decently paced and has a twist i honestly didn't see it coming. Which becomes even better on repeated playthroughs when you actually notice the different hand writting on the dead drop orders.

    Then there's quests like Paranoia and the base game Sheogorath draedic quest. Most of Skyrim's quest are really uninspired and boring. To the point they ripped the plot of The Hangover for a Daedric quest, the Sanguine quest. Then look at the Sanguine quest in Oblivion, it involves you throwing a spell at a party, causing everything to go apeshit. Fitting for a Daedric Prince and hilarious to boot because how the radiant AI goes crazy.
     
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  2. Cobra Commander

    Cobra Commander Water Chip? Been There, Done That

    Dec 6, 2016
    Skyrim is fun.

    FO4 is not.
     
  3. CT Phipps

    CT Phipps Venerable Relic of the Wastes

    Sep 17, 2016
    It's another fault with Fallout 4.

    Because the "Good" ending is blowing up the Institute and letting people evacuate to become homeless refugees.

    While the "Bad" ending is siding with the Institute where you have the opportunity to possibly change things.

    Say what you will about Skyrim but at least "Saving the World from Evil Dragon King" is at least a unambiguous thing.
     
  4. Arnust

    Arnust Maybe you've seen it, maybe, in a dream...

    Feb 2, 2016
    How was he going to literally eat Nirn, anyway? He's pretty small. Could it be...


    More seriously the Nidhogg should be out there somewhere. Let's save it for TES6.
     
  5. Crni Vuk

    Crni Vuk M4A3 Oldfag oTO Orderite

    Nov 25, 2008
    TES6 will probably bridge the gab to Fallout and explain it that it's just the past of Fallout.
     
  6. ironmask

    ironmask Still Mildly Glowing

    Mar 10, 2018
    The problem is not that it's the same as Morrowind, my problem was that most of the new lore was generic and uninspired and some of Morrowind's lore was retcon.
    Viking fantasy is also just as generic as High Middle Ages dude. Viking fantasy is also used as much as medieval fantasy. I can admit that Skyrim's world is way more interesting in comparison of oblivion's bland as fuck world though.
     
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  7. Apollyon

    Apollyon First time out of the vault

    Apr 29, 2017
    Skyrim is one of those paradoxical games where I'll spend hundreds of hours playing it, but never feeling quite satisfied. The eternal feeling of "what might've been".

    Something that truly hurts Skyrim is that it is very serious from the start, unlike Fallout, and from that point onward everything has to be logical, but it never really is. In Fallout I'm willing to accept A LOT more until I say "ok, this is getting a bit silly".
     
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  8. CerberusGate

    CerberusGate I should save my game in a whole new slot

    Jun 6, 2016
    IIRC based on Kirkbride's writings for the lore, Alduin is supposed to get much bigger and more powerful when it is time to end the world to the point where he becomes all-powerful and supreme. Plus Alduin's apparently done it before (Tamriel is apparently the latest facet of the world though again, this is based on Kirkbride and I am not sure if he's still canon).

    Hard to imagine Skyrim's Alduin doing any of that though.
     
  9. CT Phipps

    CT Phipps Venerable Relic of the Wastes

    Sep 17, 2016
    Well, Alduin is going to eat Heaven first.

    Which is a pretty big meal.
     
  10. CerberusGate

    CerberusGate I should save my game in a whole new slot

    Jun 6, 2016
    He eats everything.

    He probably would end up like this:
     
  11. CT Phipps

    CT Phipps Venerable Relic of the Wastes

    Sep 17, 2016
    I think of the Dark Brotherhood questline and the Thieves Guild as two of the best questlines in the game.

    Sadly, I feel the Companions and Mage's Guild just didn't do it for me.

    I also felt the Civil War was a big fizzle.
     
  12. Walpknut

    Walpknut This ghoul has seen it all

    Dec 30, 2010
    Skyrim can eventually be turned into a decent game with enough mods.

    There are not enough mods to fix Fallout 4.
     
  13. CerberusGate

    CerberusGate I should save my game in a whole new slot

    Jun 6, 2016
    Oblivion's retcons really did harm TES quite a bit.

    Out of curiosity, anyone compiled the lore retcons that Skyrim did? The dragons are probably one but I can't recall the others if there were any.
     
  14. CT Phipps

    CT Phipps Venerable Relic of the Wastes

    Sep 17, 2016
    Well, the biggest one and most relevant one is suddenly the Nords are worshiping the Imperial pantheon.
     
  15. Cobra Commander

    Cobra Commander Water Chip? Been There, Done That

    Dec 6, 2016
    Companions is ok, I like Kodlak. Mage is awful, but has a good boss fighting.
    The civil war it's....just there.

    Brotherhood is the best one indeed, even Cicero being absolutely annoying.
     
  16. Crni Vuk

    Crni Vuk M4A3 Oldfag oTO Orderite

    Nov 25, 2008
    I don't know anyone who got fatt from eating air.
     
  17. Walpknut

    Walpknut This ghoul has seen it all

    Dec 30, 2010
    Clouds are condensed water so he is gonna get really bloated.
     
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  18. CT Phipps

    CT Phipps Venerable Relic of the Wastes

    Sep 17, 2016
    Viking souls do nothing but feast all day but keep nice and lean due to the fighting as well as fucking. They're a healthy meal.
     
  19. ironmask

    ironmask Still Mildly Glowing

    Mar 10, 2018
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