Why does Bethesda continue to snub New Vegas?

Discussion in 'Fallout: New Vegas Discussion' started by YeeCop, Mar 29, 2017.

  1. YeeCop

    YeeCop Just a Sweet Irradiated Transvestite

    Jan 26, 2017
    Okay, pardon my French, but why the fuck does Bethesda continue to give New Vegas the cold shoulder? I get that they didn't develop the game and merely published it, but they don't even implement it into the universe, even going as far as contradicting it (with those "alien cities" in the Mojave, grrrr.)

    I recall buying the Fallout Monopoly board game (yeah, I know, I'm a tool) and seeing all the properties you can buy, like in standard Monopoly. You could buy FO1 and FO2 properties alongside FO3 and FO4 properties, but no New Vegas properties...? No HELIOS One? No Hoover Dam? Novac? They could've at least implemented The Strip, and that would've been less blasphemous, but they didn't.

    This anecdote is one of the many instances in which Bethesda completely ignores New Vegas. I wonder, why is that so? (sarcasm)
    I couldn't find a thread like this one, but if someone already voiced this matter in another thread, forgive me.
     
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  2. BigGuyCIA

    BigGuyCIA Where'd That 6th Toe Come From?

    Oct 26, 2016
    Emil probably has a chip on his shoulder. Truthfully, I don't know. The consistency in their games is all over the place so it's difficult to pinpoint exactly what Bethesda is trying to accomplish. I know they mentioned the West Coast BoS in Fallout 4 in order to legitimize Scruffy McBeard Face as the new Elder.

    :question:
     
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  3. Millim

    Millim What the fuck is this for a shit?!

    Oct 13, 2010
    Mr House is mentioned in briefing.
    But yeah...

    I don't mind it so much, it means I can easily just play 1,2 and NV like they are separate from 3&4
     
  4. YeeCop

    YeeCop Just a Sweet Irradiated Transvestite

    Jan 26, 2017
    That part bothered me the most. They could've at least referenced Mr. House at the CIT building (since he graduated from there and all), but they couldn't even do that.
    S'pose you're right though. Almost as if FO4 and FO3 are in a completely different unvierse.
     
  5. Risewild

    Risewild Sonny, I Watched the Vault Bein' Built!
    Modder Orderite

    Jun 14, 2014
    They probably consider FNV garbage, or are jealous of it, or annoyed people say FNV is a true Fallout while any Bethesda does is not, etc.
    Who knows.
     
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  6. rockitten

    rockitten It Wandered In From the Wastes

    Jan 22, 2017
    Or, because if they utilize/mentioned anything from FNV, they have to pay that 3rd party for the IP.....
     
  7. Black Angel

    Black Angel Grand Inquisitor of the Ordo Hereticus

    Mar 21, 2016
    That's not how it works.
     
  8. ThatZenoGuy

    ThatZenoGuy Residential Zealous Evolved Nano Organism

    Nov 8, 2016
    Bethesda realised that with barely over a year, Obsidian made a better game than Bethesda can do with seven fucking years.

    Do the maths.
     
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  9. Crni Vuk

    Crni Vuk M4A3 Oldfag oTO Orderite

    Nov 25, 2008
    Well to be fair, Bethesda doesn't give much of a shit about their own previous games, so you can imagine that they give even less shit to what others did - unless it get's them marketing value, like making a mine-craft-franken-shooter out of Fallout 4 to appeal to little kidz.
     
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  10. Brivoo

    Brivoo Powered by Radiant AI

    Jan 20, 2016
    They probably see it as better left untouched. New Vegas was basically throwing a bone for the fans of the old games and they probably don't want to mess with that.

    I mean, they mentioned the NCR exactly once in Fo4 and I fucking hated it, so imagine what it would be like if they had a more consistent continuity.
     
  11. Steve the Enclave grunt

    Steve the Enclave grunt First time out of the vault

    Jan 18, 2017
    And now they throw away that bone with Cthulhu-wannabes under the Mojave :/ I found exactly 4 references to New Vegas in Crapout 4, with all of them relatively subtle or hidden.

    They most likely are pissed of that Obsidian did a better job than them, with less money and time.
     
  12. CT Phipps

    CT Phipps Half-way Through My Half-life

    Sep 17, 2016
    Fallout 4 looked like it barely made it out the door with THOUSANDS of repeated lines no matter what you say.

    They probably didn't mention New Vegas because the game needed another year or two development cycle.
     
  13. Crni Vuk

    Crni Vuk M4A3 Oldfag oTO Orderite

    Nov 25, 2008
    They could have added 20 years to the development, and it wouldn't have changed much. I mean, it's like a monkey with a pencil. No matter how much time you give him, he won't write you a great novell.
     
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  14. ThatZenoGuy

    ThatZenoGuy Residential Zealous Evolved Nano Organism

    Nov 8, 2016
    Well...If we're being technical, eventually, or rather by random chance, a monkey could write a great novel.

    Chances are essentially 0 though.
     
  15. Crni Vuk

    Crni Vuk M4A3 Oldfag oTO Orderite

    Nov 25, 2008
    If that monkey was named Todd, it would be 0.
     
  16. ThatZenoGuy

    ThatZenoGuy Residential Zealous Evolved Nano Organism

    Nov 8, 2016
    Well, duh, a monkey has the Writing Skill set at 25, so it can eventually pass the 100 requirement by random chance.

    Todd is forever stuck at 10 writing skill, which can't pass regardless of the number of attempts.
     
  17. Prone Squanderer

    Prone Squanderer A bit of a Sillius Soddus.

    Jan 3, 2016
    But...but...it just works!
     
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  18. ThatZenoGuy

    ThatZenoGuy Residential Zealous Evolved Nano Organism

    Nov 8, 2016
    I know, sadly Todd is stuck with the 'it just works' trait, which ironically makes nothing work.
     
  19. Prone Squanderer

    Prone Squanderer A bit of a Sillius Soddus.

    Jan 3, 2016
    Nevermind, we have Emil ;)
     
  20. The notorious OVB

    The notorious OVB Realpolitik Scrubjunker.

    Dec 28, 2016
    Speaking of Emil, you know the infinite monkey cage? Y'know, you put monkeys in a cage and eventually they'll write Shakespeare? I have deduced that if you have an infinite Emil cage, he will never be able to write anything better.