Why is Fallout 1 so rushed?

Discussion in 'General Fallout Discussion' started by 2273nate, Aug 3, 2017.

  1. 2273nate

    2273nate Great Nate

    Jul 17, 2017
    I just want to explore and collect guns and stuff but it always seems like as soon as I get the good stuff like power armor the vaults water runs out and I fail. Why did they not make an ending where the vault runs out but you can continue out in the wasteland?
     
  2. PlanHex

    PlanHex Useless layabout oTO Moderator Orderite

    Nov 4, 2007
    The game doesn't end after you give the water-chip to the overseer, so you can just get it quickly and then explore forever (basically) as long as you have the official patch installed (otherwise there's another hidden time-limit after handing over the water-chip)
     
  3. Einhanderc7

    Einhanderc7 Vat dipped, grown and still oozing with perfection

    Apr 22, 2016
    You don't need to be a relatively high level to obtain the water chip. Just adjust your priorities.
     
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  4. Kohno

    Kohno Mildly Dipped

    Jul 30, 2009
    It's not a game about carefree random exploration.
     
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  5. twillight

    twillight First time out of the vault

    Jul 15, 2017
    Yes, it is an unfortunate thing, which got mostly corrected in F2 (where the time-limit is ca.15 years, not looking up).
     
  6. 0wing

    0wing Все умрут, а я волномут

    Mar 23, 2015
    13. Just an engine issue, otherwise game would be endless.
     
  7. 2273nate

    2273nate Great Nate

    Jul 17, 2017

    No but it is an rpg so I want to play it my way and yes complete the main goal but I don't want to feel so rushed about it.
     
  8. Arnust

    Arnust Vault Senior Citizen

    Feb 2, 2016
    You shouldn't worry TOO much. You'll get warnings when you should. You have all the time you need to do sidequests and shit, if you don't spend too much time idle or going in circles in the worldmap. There's even a way to prolong the time that the countdown has, if you feel like you have to! And even if you failed somehow, that will not happen again. Just enjoy this game.
     
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  9. Kohno

    Kohno Mildly Dipped

    Jul 30, 2009
    You can play it your way, you just have to take it into account that your character is on an urgent mission and the game holds you accountable for ignoring it. The timelimit is pretty loose to begin with and you can even extend it quite a bit (with a consequence).

    Fallout was not designed to be like Bethesda's games where the chief rule for everything is "where ever/when ever" even when it's illogical, and the world always stops to wait you. It begs for a different approach, and frankly, is a better experience when you can't (necessarily) bulldoze all content before bothering with your mission.
     
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  10. ThatZenoGuy

    ThatZenoGuy Residential Sexy Anthro Goddess...Mutant.

    Nov 8, 2016
    The water chip requires you to kill a couple of supermutants at the worst, metal armour and a good gun allows that.

    Power armour is to destroy the military base.
     
  11. Walpknut

    Walpknut Testament to the ghoul lifespan

    Dec 30, 2010
    You can get the Water chip like 2 hours into the game...
    Yo uare asking "Why can't I just play it my way?" well if your mother sent you to buy her medicine because she suffers from deadly seizures, and she needs a specific daily dosis to survive and you instead spend the money she gave you on new clothes and spend the whole day just fucking around town killing bugs and running errands, what do you think is gonna happen to her?
    Also the Waterchip is just the very beginning of the game, just go get it and you will have virtualy endless time to do everything else.

    No necessary to kill them, you can always sneak past them.
     
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  12. Black Angel

    Black Angel Grand Inquisitor of the Ordo Hereticus

    Mar 21, 2016
    Or convince them you're a ghoul. Only one of them stop you to ask a question, and he's a dumb-dumb.
     
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  13. ThatZenoGuy

    ThatZenoGuy Residential Sexy Anthro Goddess...Mutant.

    Nov 8, 2016
    You no look like ghoul...
     
  14. Black Angel

    Black Angel Grand Inquisitor of the Ordo Hereticus

    Mar 21, 2016
    But I am a ghoul!
     
  15. twillight

    twillight First time out of the vault

    Jul 15, 2017
    But I always wanned 2 b an android! What's the speech-check for that?
     
  16. CerberusGate

    CerberusGate I should save my game in a whole new slot

    Jun 6, 2016
    Actually it's a Science check and you have to met those requirements in real life so that you can make that option appear in-game.

    You're thinking along the lines of Bethesda's walking simulators with their mindless freedom and lack of consequence. Which is not what Fallout 1 was meant to be. 2's better with the freedom but 1's time limit places greater emphasis on your choices in the story.

    Fallout 1 has choice & consequences since if you remember, you need to save your in-game home from dying of thirst. If it dies, you have nothing left to live for since your only home is gone and your only motivation for being out in the Wasteland is gone.

    Think less of that and think actual RPG with choice & consequences.
     
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  17. Black Angel

    Black Angel Grand Inquisitor of the Ordo Hereticus

    Mar 21, 2016
    You know what, I was going to say that Fallout 2 did NOT correct Fallout 1's implementation of time-limit. But then I remembered that in Fallout 2 as time pass on the village would have many changes, subtle or not, like the dog you rescued would actually be eaten by your relatives. But then I also remembered how, after getting the GECK and returning there, all of those changes rendered kinda obsolete by having your entire village taken away by the Enclave, so I'm gonna say it.

    No, Fallout 2 did NOT correct Fallout 1's implementation of time-limit.
     
  18. CerberusGate

    CerberusGate I should save my game in a whole new slot

    Jun 6, 2016
    I agree, it did not improve 1's implementation of time-limits. 2 is more free but as a result, there's less focus on the story and the gravity of the situation presented. I did appreciate the changes to Arroyo if you took too long (that dog I rescued being eaten by least favorite aunt did upset me in my second playthrough) and there probably ought to have been some akin to that in the world when the Enclave captures the village and starts testing the viability of their plans fully.
     
  19. ThatZenoGuy

    ThatZenoGuy Residential Sexy Anthro Goddess...Mutant.

    Nov 8, 2016
    I should take you to da lou...
     
  20. PlanHex

    PlanHex Useless layabout oTO Moderator Orderite

    Nov 4, 2007
    Wait... The dog you rescue gets eaten? Huh. Is that in vanilla or RP? Never seen that happen. Then again, I don't remember ever going back to Arroyo before finding the GECK anyway...