Comments on Profile Post by R.Graves

  1. Norzan
    Norzan
    I loved Walter White's character progression, but no one can seriously defend half of the shit he did. Doing it for his family is not an excuse for those actions.
    Sep 16, 2019
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  2. KingArthur
    KingArthur
    All depends on what atrocities you wanna justify. You can probably tell from my username, but I’ve a higher “justifiable atrocity threshold” than most. Most people look at Nipton and see horror. I see a beautiful lesson in karmic justice and guérilla warfare. But I digress.
    Sep 16, 2019
  3. R.Graves
    R.Graves
    There's an alarming amount of people in the fanbase who honestly think Walt was both intelligent and good to Jessie both of which are outright false.
    Sep 16, 2019
  4. KingArthur
    KingArthur
    Ok, that’s... just wrong. As in, inaccurate.
    Sep 16, 2019
  5. Norzan
    Norzan
    Walt shattered Jesse by the end of the show, he was a broken character by the end of the show. What's more alarming is the amount of people that hate Skyler. I rewatched the show recently and she was the voice of reason. A lot of stuff could have probably been prevented if Walt listened to her.
    Sep 16, 2019
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  6. KingArthur
    KingArthur
    I’ve a feeling that Walt’s downfall was inevitable simply due to the person he became. It was only ending one way, and the mistakes leading up to that were, arguably, a result of natural cause and effect.
    Sep 16, 2019
  7. KingArthur
    KingArthur
    I don’t feel the need to spoiler alert because you two obviously watched Breaking Bad, but I believe that Walt’s death, and everything that lead up to it, was a kind of snowball effect. And even if at times Walt had the chance to listen to Skylar, he simply wouldn’t have because that wasn’t the man he was becoming.
    Sep 16, 2019
  8. R.Graves
    R.Graves
    Also Better Call Saul > Breaking Bad
    Sep 16, 2019
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  9. R.Graves
    R.Graves
    Walt died because he was a spastic who couldn't plan for shit
    Sep 16, 2019
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  10. KingArthur
    KingArthur
    Exactly. Skylar, as it was said, was the voice of reason. Walt’s character arc showed him becoming increasingly violent and unhinged, and that, in my opinion, was why he didn’t listen to her. He was turning into anything but a reasonable man.
    Sep 16, 2019
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  11. Norzan
    Norzan
    I do love in the first season, maybe season 2 too, everybody is saying Jesse is such a bad influence on Walt. And then in the remaining seasons everyone is saying Walt is such a bad influence on Jesse.
    Sep 16, 2019
  12. zegh8578
    zegh8578
    Relating to characters (their failures, their weaknesses, their aggression, their lack of control) easily translates into *defending* both the characters - as well as all those undesireable traits that we relate to (being imperfect ourselves). It's an easy trap (albeit usually unintended by the show creators)
    Sep 16, 2019
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  13. Alphons
    Alphons
    I was honestly surprised when one of my friends mentioned that he started to dislike Walt after the prison purge.
    Sep 16, 2019
  14. R.Graves
    R.Graves
    I disliked Walter from season 2 onwards. He's a fucking spastic who hurts everyone he cares about for his own gain from the moment he let Jane die.
    Sep 17, 2019
  15. zegh8578
    zegh8578
    Walter is amazingly written, in how profoundly dislikable he becomes. I am also impressed at the Skyler hate-trap they lay - you hate her, cus shes ruining the fun, then when it's not fun anymore, you regret hating her
    Sep 17, 2019
  16. R.Graves
    R.Graves
    Never once hated Skylar because she was the polar opposite to Walter who I found arrogant, annoying, cruel, and a bit pathetic.
    Sep 17, 2019
  17. KingArthur
    KingArthur
    I think both views of Walter are understandable, though I think you’re biased against him due to his cooking drugs lel
    Sep 17, 2019
  18. zegh8578
    zegh8578
    Walter gets big dreams, beyond his quick 300 000 (which is his primary motivation, remember - alleviate his family the financial burden) - it is this egocentrical drive that ends up costing more and more lives - first "trivial junkie" lives, then "merely criminals" - then his own family
    Sep 17, 2019
  19. zegh8578
    zegh8578
    All he ever had to do - was stop when he had what he wanted to get. There are events that can understandably push someone, like when he has to start over early on in the series, to re-gain his money, but he still lost his focus to unecesarily big dreams - as he admits in the end - he did it all for his own excitement, and it cost him all of what he wanted to safeguard
    Sep 17, 2019