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Man, you guys must have learning disabilities. I should stop making fun of you...
The argument was, Snake claiming there were no active investigations, then I linked to something that directly stated there was. THen criticized the experience Trump has as anything other than an idle rich and snake claimedthat he is rich so he knows what he is doing, to which then I stated the system is rigged in favor of the rich. See, it's all nice, if you get it gold star for you.
You talk about some Russian collusion and then say he won fair and square? Man I'm wasting my time with this autistic screeching. Calling people stupid that can't read is all that you can do as the one trick pony you are. You just enjoy that wonderful socialism and other dogshit.
Well you would probably understand if you actually knew how to read. But that ship sailed long ago.
1. No one knows to what extend Russia was involved in to the whole ellection or if there even was some involved to begin with. Hence why you do investigations - what a novell idea. And often they take a lot of time, sometimes years. Don't expect to get anwsers tomorrow and don't just parrot "it's all fake news anyway!"
2. By constnatly talking about Obama, even right now, you guys are NOT(!) doing your self any favour. See, Obama is bad. Hillary is bad. But Trump is simply worse. And anyone who's unbiased should actually acknowledge that. I mean seriously, not even the REPUBLICANS in the Senate agreed to some of his stuff.
3. People defending Trump remind me to a cult. And this discussion right now ... liberals bring up stuff they didn't bring about Obama, when republicans didn't bring up when Bush was president, which democrats didn't bring up when Bill Clinton was president. Do you guys not see the pattern here?
Seriously, focus on Trump and only Trump right now, beacuse if he starts tomorrow a war, If Trump allinates all of your allies, if Trump starts a whole new recession and if god forbids, if he will be impeached this kind of argument wont fly. No one will care what other presidents have done. Again. They. Are. Not. Presidents.
Of course some Republicans don't agree to what Trump does, everyone is entitled to their own political opinion, Hell, even when Obama, or any president before Trump, was in power, some people in the majority party of congress didn't agree to the president's views. It ain't anything new, and it's always been around.
Also the testimony proved that there was no investigation into Trump or any sort of Russian involvement, it was proven in a legal case that Trump did not pressure Comey into halting any sort of investigation, simply because there wasn't any investigation in the first place. It was mainly a thing brought up by the media which several people who opposed Trump started to get the ball rolling with it.
Ok, fair enough every President had issues, but as I already said ... this strawman is not gone make 'america great again'.
You can not get around the fact that Trump is right now as unpopular like Bush after 5(!) years in his presidency ... and it took a major event for Bush to hit that rating.
Trump has a very good chance, to become one of the most incompetent, unpopular and erratic presidents of the American history.
If I remember correctly, most polls have him ranked up at 40-50% currently, I ain't too sure what it is now because I haven't checked in quite a while, but regardless, it is pretty regular for any president after the first couple of months of his presidency.
Eh, no it isn't.
How would you know? The ratings of a president usually are up around the 40-50% range after the first 100 or so days, which has been the case for Bush, Clinton, and so on. It's only recently that our nation has become more divisive because of the result of an election.
And although we cannot have a clear representation of the approval rating, either being polled from a traditionally Democrat or Republican area, we can still get a nice estimate of it.
Because those are some reather solid ratings which are done since I think for like a very long time on a very solid basis. And there can be no doubts about it that Trump is the most unpoupular president since they actually do those ratings. Again, Presidents usually hit those ratings after a couple of years, like Bush after Katrina. Not after 100 days in office.
Besides, since you like Trump. What are his major achievements so far?
Again, it may be rather difficult to poll since the polls are usually taken in very one-sided places. If you're wondering about his achievements, then he's done a whole lot like signing the most legislation bills and taken more direct action than any other president in recent history. His main policy is keeping our industry strong in the States and so far it is working.
How is it working? Do you have anything that actually proves that his policies have any effect? Also, making lots of legistlation bills doesn't mean you're getting shit done. A lot of those 'bills' are still pending in the congress and in some cases not even moving forward at all. Can you show some REAL SUBSTANTIAL effect of his 100 days.
I have a feeling you don't understand the U.S. government and how it works all too well. A bill takes a considerable amount of time to pass through congress, passing through both the House and Senate, it takes a considerable amount of time for it to happen. Hell, a bill that was passed a few months before the election was recently veto'd but passed after congress' vote a few months after.
Alright, I thought you would say something like that ... so I will have to wait 5 years before we can have the same kind of discussion where you will probably say ... bu ... bu ... buuut Obama wasn't better either!
Statistically Obama wasn't better either, he had one of the highest unemployment rates under an American president since decades ago. He destroyed many industries such as the housing business with some of his bills and has tripled our nations debt. I'd go more into detail about it but the word limit is too short.
You ignored what I said as well, Trump has actually signed bills and legislature that is trying to fix our unemployment rate. It comes directly from his policies introduced during his state of the union address, where he detailed that he would be focusing first on America and trying to stabilize our economic policies.
You're very unspecific in all of that though, what legislation are you talking about and what does it actually say and how is it meant to boost the economy? I can write legislations too you know, doesn't mean that mine will be sound. Remember, who would have thought Healthcare to be so complicated ...
I say legislation because it was too much of a broad topic to cover when I have only 420 words to respond to you with. I haven't implied that you can write any legislations either, and most that he has signed have been sound in the eyes of congress seeing as how they have been passed or are about to be passed.
Since our economy tanked under Obama's presidency, Trump has considered boosting our economy to be the first and foremost thing to do during his presidency. Having jobs in the states makes us lose unemployment rate and makes us stop outsourcing in other countries, something I thought Liberals and the like would be for.
Boosting our industry and raising tariffs and whatnot cold provide us with a stable source of income, enough for us to recover. So far he has passed enough bills and legislature introduced to congress that the jobs in the states have been going up, and unemployment down, like how he said he would do during his state of the union address.
Very Trump to take credit for something that happened tangentialy to his actions.
Kremin, like I already said. be more specific. If I said things have to become more 'social' then it's just throwing buzzwords around, just like saying "Boost our economy by boosting our industry". How does Trump plan to do that? By lowering taxation for industries? Decreasing the dificit in export? And what consequences will that have?
The reason why I am asking this is because some people have the idea that Mexico for example would pay for a wall, which highlights how much they know about ecnomy. Yes, go and start a trade war with Mexico. That will boost the ecomomy! I can say a lot of things, but at the end of the day, I actually need a plan to achieve it.
Obama inherited the economic collapse from theBush administration and left it at justy about okay and ready to grow at the end of his administration.Trump starts his terms and takes credit for something tangential to any of his "derregulate everything!" policies, then also takes credit for the decrease in illegal border crossing that had been declining year by year.
If you make Obama out to be the savior that you think he is, then you're wrong. He has actually ruined many trades and businesses like the housing and construction business. Trump plans to take action in getting both of those fields back on it's feet to bolster our economy and workforce. Don't forget to mention how his irregular spending policies tripled our debt, which, after 200 years, has only gotten to be 8 tril.
Mexico is the primary source of all of the illegal immigrants we have been garnering over the past decade or so, which Trump's administration plans to make them pay for the wall that would help to cut off the flow of illegal immigration.
Furthermore, if you say that ain't justified, remember how the Obama administration tried to halt all illegal immigration from Cuba, which is another Spanish speaking nation that has suffered under the rule of a Communist dictatorship.
Wow Kermin you huys go back to the "you love Obama!!!!" Shit pretty fast even after we already criticized him and stated our unfavorable opinions on him. You guys are truly incapable of rational thought.
Then again you already stuffed your face with propaganda and alt facts. Enjoy paying for the wall with your taxes while he takes your healthcare away.
Remember it was y'all that brought Obama back up, I wasn't intending on changing the topic of the conversation.
However, Trump promises to secure our economy by making more beneficial trade deals and then killing off the other deals that would be deleterious if anything, hence why he withdrew from the Paris Agreement.
Obama is relevant to the topic of job growth in 2017 because that's how economic policies and presidential administration works.
The Paris Agreement wouldn't have any effect on economy, he withdrew out of it because of the interests of oil corporates. You are swallowing the propaganda whole.
Mexico isn't gonna pay for the wall, there is nothing Trump can do other than military action because if they try to engage on a trade war with Mexico it's the US that has the most to lose there. The president of Mexico has already statedhe isn't gonna pay for shit either.
We wasted 1 billion dollars on the Paris Agreement, meanwhile other countries that have way much more of a pollution problem than us haven't payed all too much. It was detrimental to our economy.
There are always more alternatives to military action, we aren't going to start an entire war with Mexico, we are probably going to back down. I also like how you contradicted yourself by saying that Obama isn't all too relevant for this conversation but afterwards you said he is.
Senator Cruz has proposed a way to get funding for the wall, but I don't know where the bill is standing at right now, it's been a month or so since I last heard about it, but it is a viable alternative to using funding that we invested into federal spending.
I think you need to learn how to read because I clearly stated Obama is relevant to the specific topic of JOB GROWTH IN 2017. Hay-soos, you guys are truly dense.
You still havn't given even one example of how Trumps policies are possibily going to actually boost the economy outside of, support the industry! Again, we can talk about a lot of things we want to do, but you have to back that up with something at least. I understand that you don't like Obama, but don't be unreasonable dude.
As far as Paris goes, it also shows how little informed you are. The paris agreement was a non binding, voluntary agreement. Every nation sets their own goals. What are you? A Climatechange denier? Why not denny gravity as well, if you are at it. Making sensible policies here, is well a sensible thing to do.
Climate change is one of those exmples that very nicely shows how much of shills right wingers can be. Free market! Free enterprise! Liberty! Choice! Oh? You say coal is loosing because people want more green energy? FUCK THEM! #COALMINERSLIVESMATTER! Hell, stick to your ideals man, let the 'market' decide what's correct.
Money for the envirorment? FUCKTHAT!!!! SOVEREIGNITY!
Much more Money for a wall that willdo nothing? YES PLEASE!
Hey remember, government regulations for business sucks, environment protection? Government is to corrupt!
But immigration?! YES PLEAAASE! MORE GOVERNMENT. SHUT UP AND TAKE MY MONEY!
I will never get the far/conservative right ...