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Hehe. Well, I guess I walked into that. :) I mean, functionally and game balance-wise, what would you say sets them apart? Hitting a guy with a big stick would still be considered martial arts, I mean (depending if you have training or not).

That will probably be in the flavor of the game, seeing as how you could do that very thing in Fallout 1 and 2.

Wow, what an interesting thread. First off, I have to say that I am in no way, shape or form advocating mass music piracy like in China (lack of copyright laws is one of the reasons China is--and shall forever remain--a cesspool of the business world). One thing I've noticed is the...

I loved the talking heads. Unfortunately, it's a bit of a drain on the size of the program and resources of the developers (plus on the coffers if they have actors like Richard Moll and Michael Dorn do voiceovers again). I think I recall that JE Sawyer said that they weren't going to do the...

You didn't feel that Melee and Unarmed were two redundant skills? I honestly, from a game balance standpoint as well as a realism standpoint, couldn't see the need for the overlap. What would you say most significantly set those two skills apart?

Yeah, Di is pretty much the stirrer of the shitpot over there. One guy flat out said, "I just don't like you." Heh--couldn't have said it better myself. Her arguments are by far the most ill-conceived I have ever heard. Basically she ignores any arguments against her ideas and then puts...

Oh yeah, of course the Chinese arts were first. I didn't mean to imply that the Japanese arts were first--I just used the analogy of the samurai vs. the peasant because it was convenient. Anyway, I agree that it keeps with the spirit of 50's style combat by limiting the unarmed combat to...

Oh man, I am SO with you there. You should see the resistance encountered on the BIS Board whenever you try to bring a valid argument to their attention. Jesus, I just had a thread locked because of an argument with JE Sawyer, and then some people rallied to his side, some people rallied to my...

Actually, any kind of melee combat which has been turned into a pseudo-science can be considered martial arts. The key being the word "martial." But yeah, I agree that they should be combined. Any martial art that is older than 100 years is all but *guaranteed* to have a study of weapons in...

I kind of like the idea BIS is going with right now though. That is, the firearm would be called just "Assault Rifle." HOWEVER, what I like, is having the item look exactly like an AK-47 or an M-16. The AK-47 could be called the generic "Assault Rifle" and the M-16 could be the "Vault City...

Ooh, that's a great link. Thanks, Brios! Now you can see how cool Van Buren will be if you play a noncombatant, and how much it will suck if you play a combat character.

Okay, now I am frightened. :shock:

Nope, Van Buren is the Interplay code name for a game which will eventually be renamed Fallout 3. But if I were you, el_Prez, I wouldn't assume that just because it is going to be created that it will be fun. You should read some of JE Sawyer's ideas on making firearms one skill...

I was just wondering what everybody thought about all the changes made from Fallout 2 to Van Buren. I mean, what do you think about the "marksmanship" skill, the "Science Boy" path, the new skill point system, the elimination of gambling, and the paucity of ammo? I for one, like all of hte...

Hehe, thanks Brios. You guys ended up moving and leaving me behind without leaving a forwarding address! Just like my parents did to me! *sniff* Oh the memories! But anyway, yeah, JE Sawyer is really screwing the pooch with Van Buren right now. *Sigh* trying to explain anything to him is...

Or was it Duck and Cover? Anyway, I saw some quotes about Roshambo and St. Proverbius, and I said, "Hey, I remember those guys!" so I figured I'd come on over here and say hi. So...what happened to the old board?