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Indeed. Me thinks that a retcon has occured.

I'm kind of odd in this regard, if I may say so, only heard of Fallout because of Fallout 3 but bought, played and loved Fallout 2 before Fallout 3 then hit the shelves.

I suggest you speak to him again, he explicitally states that the war with the NCR will change the Legion, he also wants to change the Legion from a nomadic tribe to a standing army, with New Vegas as the capital.

We don't know that, and given that a vast array of civilian vehicles that had fission engines then I don't see why a prototype military ginship being built during an oil crisis shouldn't. We don't know that refuelling meant Oil.

Well a lot of people have forgotten the Enclave, especially in the NCR.

Actually the one in the logs is Whitley whilst this new one is Whitely (as I was kindly told on the Vault). But given the new infomation about ED-E I mean that's more than just a coinsidence. Ha! I knew it, after all this time am I finally going to be thrown a fucking bone in these DLCs!?

The Divide was created by the remains of a Big MT meteological experiment.

I hypothesised in my fan-fic once that the Brotherhood didn't even enter, but rather attacked NCR Ranger teams who had Enclave POWs. I know that the Remnants didn't implicate the Brotherhood in the initial assault and will go by their word; of course we will never know the full facts but I would...

Did they? I remember hearing that the Brotherhood joined in the looting afterwards, tracking down the survivors for their Power Armour; but I've never heard the Remnants mention a combined assualt.

They aren't allies, one of the Tops guys is plotting to overthrow House and competely on his own - much to the shock of his second. The Omertas? Yeah I'll give you that. House didn't make the Ultra Luxe crowd cannibals, in-fact he did his best to reform them and succeeded until one guy...

House isn't an unqualified leader who just roped people into alliances by doing them favours. He has money, an existing infastructure and a long term plan.

Where would they be outside of Navarro or maybe the Brotherhood? I can't imagine a fight with either would leave much left to rob.

Unless those people aren't you friends :3. I help the Legion personally, I think that they suck but whatever keeps hurting the NCR is game in my book.

Yeah, I might have got the impression that they were just going to shuffle them off. I mean they did seem to be more powerful and advanced than they should be, taking about making Vertibirds (where?) and making nuclear fission reactors. Felt like New Vegas was trying to tone these things down to...

I would say that they got them from the Enclave as IIRC, the Shi aren't even referenced once in Fallout: New Vegas. Spoils of the Battle of Navarro, NCR fucks.

Christ that is bad, a doctor and learned women and apparently enough people were searching for fucking Moria Brown that they needed a redirect? Also who the hell looks for specific game characters on Wikipedia, are people just completely oblivious to the Vault? Probably for the best actually :3

The independant ending really is puzzling, I said it to everyone who thought Elder Lyon's would make a good leader and I'll say it again; military experience, hell - not even that in the Courier's case - the ability to shoot people up does not necessarily translate to effective civilian leader.

Well at least you can do something to the fuckers, not like you can just vapourise the little fucker with a Yuma Flatts Pulse Rifle anymore is it? Ah, old times at the Den... :cry:

I know right? I mean seriously, wouldn't it have been cheaper just to make an original title? Was the Fallout fanbase really that big as to justify all the licencing costs; especially when the game was made to appeal to Oblivion's fanbase - as I was apart of at the time - ?

Same, if a place is supposed to be after a nuclear war - maybe not 200 years but I digress - then I have no problem with it being a littloe rundown and grey; it's part of the territory.