A machine gun question...

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Okay, here is my question, which is a better machine gun. I am using right now a Vindicator (the 2nd one) Machinegun, but for a while I used that one silver machine gun, with the lil' two stands in the front, I forgot the name of it, but some ppl say that the Browning or the M2 or whatever are the best machine guns that you can use. And I just want to know, because the Vindicator wastes a shit load of bullets, and even though it does some mighty dmg, I wonder if its the best thing out there, I havn't gotten any of the laser machine guns, but my heavy weapons guy will prolly stick with Big Guns until the end of the game.

-Morphix
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If you are fighting unarmored opponents the vindicator & avenger are very good for mowing down large numbers of them, but the browning m2 takes the cake for anyone in armor, it has a longer range and does 40-50 damage per bullet as opposed to about 7-14 on the others so that the damage threshold isn't going to reduce the damage per bullet down to nothing or almost nothing.
 
Wow!

Are you serious? Cuz I have been using the Vindicator on mutants and robots and it doesn't work soo hot. It works great for Reavers and guys with light armor, also death claws, but its shit against Robots, even on close bursts I have to pump about 4-5 bursts into them jus to kill them. Thats like 200-300 bullets, Stitch does more damage with his burst Pancor Jackhammer to robots. :-\

-Morphix
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Also is the flamer thrower totaly useless? Ive used it on humans once in a while and it works good when they are comin through doors and I'm waiting right at the door.
 
RE: Wow!

Umm... I think you misread the post by Justisaur. Your post illustrates his point exactly. With armored opponents, the 7-14 per bullet (times 40) that the miniguns do is outweighed very much by armor that reduces base damage by say 8, and then only takes 40% damage on the remainder. You end up with a bunch of bullets doing no damage or only 1 or 2 damage. With the Browning M2, you don't fire as many bullets, but each one will do 40 or 50 damage. Now you subtract 8 and take 40% and you're still left with 15 to 20 per bullet. But when fighting robots, you'll definitely want armor piercing or energy weapons anyway. It takes about 30 shots with a sniper rifle to kill a robot, while 3 or 4 shots with an energy weapon will often kill a Mr. Handy (a.k.a. "humanoid robot").
 
RE: Wow!

I wouldn't replace my pulse rifle for nothing! It uses 3 ap's and I haven't even picked fast shot!

anyway, flamer is great vs. deathclaws, and for the big guns, I'd stick with browning m2, fantastic damage, although uses rare ammo... ok, I finished the game having 2.500 ammo for it, but what the heck, I had 27.000 7.62 ;)
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So, umm...

Okay, I'm sick right now so I ca't think, but can you just give me a straight answer, what gun is better to use through out the game, on mutants or robots?

-Morphix
 
RE: So, umm...

Alot of mutants have insane critical %'s So use any gun that has good distance. Robots are electronic So use any gun or weapon that does emp damage. :) As far as "the best gun" That's depends on what kind of character you made. Different guns do different dammage depending on your skill and what type of ammo you use.
hope this helps.
 
RE: So, umm...

Okay...how about this. When you first get to the big mutant encounter with the mutants and the APC, whats the better gun to use, the browning gun, or that silver on that has the two stands in front of it? I used that silver gun for sevreal missions until I found the avenger machine gun, and than later I upgraded to the Vindicator. I know that robots can easily be killed with emp and laser and stuff, but I'm just wondering overall whats a better machine gun to use..

-Morphix
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RE: So, umm...

I think it's probably the browning. holds lots of ammo, does good damage and has good distance. The only problem I've had with it is finding ammo and also the ammo is pretty heavy not to mention the gun is pretty heavy. This makes it really hard to pick up lots of other stuff to barter with.:p
 
Minigun or Big machine gun ?

Browning M2 is the best machine gun I've seen so far, extremely heavy.. and ammo's heavy too, 5 / pound, but how does that compare to avenger or vindicator at near range ? or even HK CAWS or Flamer ? anyone did direct comparison for non-criticals ?

also, I noticed that bursting have a higher chance of causing criticals than single shot, for almost any gun, anyone can confirm that ?
 
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