Arafat in irreversible coma

welsh

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Looks like Arafat is about to check out personally. But there's a problem- no successor.

Will this lead to riots in Palestine? A power struggle for leadership? More belligerence against Israel or less?

And what about Arafat- any dark conspiracies that he was poisoned at an opportune time?

Your thoughts?

Palestinian Official Says Arafat in Coma
Associated Press

Thursday 04 November 2004

PARIS - Yasser Arafat has lapsed into a coma in a French hospital, a senior Palestinian official said Thursday, a day after the Palestinian leader was rushed to intensive care following a sharp deterioration in his health.

French President Jacques Chirac went to the hospital and saw Arafat and his wife, "to whom he expressed his best wishes," Chirac's office said. The president also met members of the Palestinian Authority and doctors "who are doing everything possible for the health of the president," Chirac's office said.

The visit lasted about 30 minutes. Chirac did not speak to reporters.

French television station LCI quoted an anonymous French medical official as saying Arafat was in an "irreversible coma" and "intubated" a process that usually involves threading a tube down the windpipe to the lungs. The tube is often connected to a life support machine to help the patient breathe.

The Palestinian official would not say when Arafat lost consciousness. Two Arafat aides in Paris denied he was in a coma, but the senior Palestinian with close access to the medical team insisted Arafat was comatose.

A prolonged Arafat incapacitation or death could have profound impact on the Middle East. There are fears of unrest among Palestinian factions, which Arafat, viewed as a national symbol by even some who opposed him, was largely able to prevent. Furthermore, chaos in the West Bank and Gaza could make any cooperation with Israel even more difficult.

On the other hand, Israel and the United States have in recent years shunned Arafat as a terrorist and an obstacle to peace, and his replacement by a new leadership could open the door to renewed peace talks. Such a scenario could affect Israel's current plans to pull soldiers and settlers out of the Gaza Strip in a unilateral move not coordinated with the Palestinians.

French hospital officials would not comment on Arafat's condition. The 75-year-old leader was rushed to the Percy Military Training Hospital outside Paris for emergency treatment Friday. Since then, his condition has largely remained a mystery, with Palestinians issuing conflicting reports.

Israeli media, citing Israeli intelligence officials, said Arafat suffered organ failure and lost consciousness several times. The Maariv daily said his condition was "very critical."

Anxious Palestinian leaders held an emergency meeting in the West Bank on Thursday. Foreign Minister Nabil Shaath said top officials were in touch with Arafat's hospital every 30 minutes to check on his condition.

"The Palestinian leadership is in constant meeting to follow up on the president's health," Shaath said from Ramallah, where leaders of the PLO and Arafat's Fatah movement were meeting.

There is concern in Israel about the potential for chaos in the West Bank and Gaza Strip if Arafat dies or is incapacitated to the point where he is unable to perform politically. The Israeli army has a plan, called "new leaf," to deal with the fallout from Arafat's death, including possible Palestinian riots.

The Israeli military had not yet moved forces to anticipated problem areas, but commanders were told to be on standby.

Israeli security officials were meeting Thursday to study the repercussions in the Middle East should Arafat die, Israeli officials said. Top officials, including Israeli Defense Minister Shaul Mofaz and Army Chief Lt. Gen. Moshe Yaalon, were to focus their weekly meeting on reports that Arafat's health took a sudden turn for the worse, the officials said.

Among Israel's plans are ways to prevent Arafat from being buried in Jerusalem. Prime Minister Ariel Sharon has said he would not permit Arafat to be buried in the city, claimed by both Israel and the Palestinians as their capital.

Cabinet official Saeb Erekat called reports Arafat had lapsed into a coma "baseless." Erekat told The Associated Press in Ramallah that Arafat's wife, Suha, told him Arafat's condition was "stable but difficult."

Shaath said, "He is not getting better but not getting worse either. He is being examined. He is not in a coma. There is no explanation for what has happened."

Mohammed Rashid, Arafat's financial adviser, also denied that Arafat was in a coma.

"Last night, several blood and bone marrow tests were done that required the president to be in an isolation unit for several hours, and there is no truth to any of the reports that he is in a coma," Rashid said in Paris.

Mohammed Dahlan, a former Palestinian security chief, accused Israel of spreading rumors.

"These unfounded reports are not coming from French medical teams, these are leaks from the Israeli side," he said in Paris. "Leaking such rumors will only complicate things and also complicate the situation within the Palestinian public."

Earlier Thursday, Palestinian officials said Arafat had lost consciousness repeatedly and described his condition as extremely serious. Efforts to reach Leila Shahid, the Palestinian envoy to France, were unsuccessful Thursday.

Arafat's condition worsened Wednesday and he was rushed into intensive care. Doctors do not know the cause of the blood and digestive disorders uncovered over the past few days.

Israel Radio reported that Mahmoud Abbas, No. 2 in the PLO hierarchy and a former prime minister, was on his way to Paris on Thursday.

Arafat, who fell ill three weeks ago, was flown to France after passing out briefly at his West Bank headquarters. He was initially described as having a bad flu, with symptoms of vomiting and diarrhea.

Palestinian officials insist publicly that leukemia and other forms of cancer, as well as any type of poisoning, have been ruled out.

The officials, undoubtedly conscious of the anxiety at home at the thought of a future without Arafat who has led the Palestinians for 40 years with no obvious successor, previously described his condition as improving and said more tests were being done.

Rashid said early Thursday the medical analysis was "deepening a little bit" but he remained confident Arafat would recover.

"There are no setbacks," he said. "It's no secret he's ill, that's why he's in France. But there is no threat, there is no danger, no serious degradation."

On Wednesday, Shahid said Arafat felt well enough to ask about the U.S. presidential election. An aide later issued a statement in Arafat's name congratulating President Bush on his re-election.
 
The whole situation just smells bad all around. I don't keep up too much on foreign affairs, but I feel this could definately lead to more troubles between Israel and Palestine...and since we are the largest supporter of Israel...this means more problems headed for the U.S. :look:
 
WOOT WOOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Arafats a terrorist. Im glad hes dying.

With luck someone more likley to go for peace rather than constantly pissing isreal off/likley to control the terror factions will take over.



::dances on Arafats grave::


EDIT

::lets a pig shit on said grave.::
 
Actually conflict between Palestinians can play to Israel's favor. Furthemore they can manipulate the outcome to something more of their liking while hiding behind their big wall.

That said, could you imagine if the death of Arafat was planned. Prior to the uncertain election, Bush or Sharon decide on creating a political situation in Palestine that whoever wins the US election must contend with. For Bush, who wants Arafat gone- either way it works. If he had lost, than there is regime change, if he wins, than he can help oversee the transition.

Dark conspiracies! But I doubt it.

Though the French doctors at one point thought he had been poisoned.
 
I really don't like you, Psycho. Why haven't you realized that the Israelis are equally, if not more, evil?
 
PsychoSniper said:
Arafats a terrorist. Im glad hes dying.

Arafat was a terrorist... but not for the last 10 years... he was a president...maybe he deserves death... - but that's not the question at all 8)

as i said: He is/was (is he still alive? different networks are telling diferent things...) one of the more moderates - no in fact he is for palestinian circumstances a very enlightened person and if he dies there're a lot of more radical powers in palestine... :shock:
 
Oh, the Israelis want to coexist? Is that why they launch Apache strikes against Palestininan civilians? Now that you mention it, it makes perfect sense. Thanks, I'm going to go get a lobotomy now.
 
They launch strikes agisnt combantts trying to kill them.

That children are used as combatants or bomb delivery units, and the arabs like to sheild themselves with civies is beside the issue.


The palastenins AIM for civies.

Big differnce.
 
Hmmmm.

What about all the camps that the Israeli's seem to like to bulldoze?

Trust me, I think Arafat going is going to be a combination of good (get more moderate, less terror supporting leadership in), and bad (No sucessor named, going to be a huge power vacuum until somebody gets in there to take the reigns).

Going to be ugly either way.
 
They buldoze places the terrorists fire weapons from, base themselves in, store weapons in.

Or as Golda Meir said: " There will be peace when the palistineian mother loves her child more than she hates the jew"
 
Hey, right in time for the re-election of Bush. Osama reappears in order to give him a wonderful endorsement, and Arafat dies without naming someone to take his place. It's a Greek Tragedy, baby!

Nostradamus was right, the end of the world will begin on the year 2000 with the Oil Antichrist, who just got re-elected in time to reign over WWIII.

Or something like that. :)

</tongue-in-cheek>
 
Roshambo said:
Hey, right in time for the re-election of Bush. Osama reappears in order to give him a wonderful endorsement, and Arafat dies without naming someone to take his place. It's a Greek Tragedy, baby!

Nostradamus was right, the end of the world will begin on the year 2000 with the Oil Antichrist, who just got re-elected in time to reign over WWIII.

Or something like that. :)

</tongue-in-cheek>


:lol: :lol: :lol:


"President Evil"
 
Lord Inquisitor Baboonius said:
Why haven't you realized that the Israelis are equally, if not more, evil?

Well, while the Israelis may be dicks, they're not the ones blowing themselves up in crowded cafes and transit busses.

It may be hard making ends meet as a Palestinian, but at least they're not afraid of public transit.


As for Arafat, the results of his death will certainly be interesting. Though mostly decoration these last few years, Arafat provided a rallying point for Palestinians to unite against a common enemy. Now that he's gone will there be in-fighting between Hamas and their colleagues? We'll have to see.
 
Yeah, raghead infighting=good.

With luck some intersted in the prosperity of their society will win quickly.
 
not again such a discussion... last week i had an exchange student (police officer [i study criminalistics]) from Jerusalem, arguing with my syrian neighbor :roll:

Okay...lets clear it NOW! Sniper has choice of weapons, location is up to L.I.B. :D

Once again: IT JUST DOESN'T MATTER WHO IS THE "EVIL ONE" IN THIS CONFLICT!
Arafat is a stabilizing element in this conflict - and it even doesn't matter if he once was a terrorist.
If he's away sooner or later radical elements will take over the PLO... OMFG! IT'S IN THIS WORLDPOLITICAL SITUATION THE LAST THING WE NEED...

btw. Psycho: you fulfill the American-genotype cliche i tried to get out of my mind the last two day- thank you!
 
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