Cass Born and Raised in New Arroyo?

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zowmaster

First time out of the vault
Sometimes I like to wonder about the trivial points of the Fallout world and during my recent playthrough of Fallout 2 I was wondering; according to the Fallout Timeline on the wiki Fallout 2 canonically ends sometime during the Fall of 2242. Now further according to the wiki, Cass is born in 2244, two years after the end of Fallout 2. Wouldn't then it make sense that Cass from New Vegas was at least born, if not raised, in New Arroyo?

It really wouldn't make sense for Cassidy to settle down anywhere but New Arroyo after Fallout 2, IMO. And further canon sources I can find state that the original Cassidy, 'left to wonder the wastes when she (Cass) was young.' I know this doesn't really matter but what do you guys think?
 
Sure, makes sense. I mean, it could have been any tribal woman from any of the other tribes, but settling down in the GECK'd Arroyo would have certainly been a smart move for Cassidy.
 
Huh, my canon Courier is from New Arroyo, helps explain that Vault 13 suit too. I don't think Cass was born in New Arroyo based off this dialogue when you ask her about her parents. Her mother wasn't from Arroyo rather she was from one of the tribes east of the Colorado.

  • ↑ The Courier: "Your mother was a tribal?"
    Rose of Sharon Cassidy: "You know, like one of the tribes from the East - we got 'em out West, too. NCR's herding 'em up, though, domesticating them. Mom was from East of the Colorado, though, not sure what tribe. Was before the time Caesar rounded them up, made them Legion. She walked a hell of a way until she crossed paths with my Dad and he convinced her to stop walking. And lucky for me, he was a horny old bastard."
    (Rose of Sharon Cassidy's dialogue)
  • ↑ The Courier: "Tell me about your Dad."
    Rose of Sharon Cassidy: "Not much to tell. He ended up walking East one day when I was young and never came back. Not a family deserter like some, though. Mom died waiting for him, and she had me to raise. She was sick but she held off dying until I was old enough to be getting into trouble with boys. As for Dad, I figure he just got himself lost or dead. Happens... and I'm not all boo-hoo about it, so save your glass for someone who's crying."
    The Courier: "Any idea why he went East?"
    Rose of Sharon Cassidy: "Not a clue. When he left, I was too in my crib to understand why, and around the time Mom passed, I was too into my teens to listen. Got his name, got this pendant, and that's about it. Gift from my Dad, along with my name. Rose of Sharon Cassidy. Mom said he got the name out of some Old World book about dirt pilgrims. Name sure sounds sweet, though. Anyway, pendant's a little rose. Originally thought it was one of Mom's tribal necklaces, but no, came from Dad."
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Cassidy talks about how he'd like to travel to the Midwest, it's plausible that after helping the Chosen One defeat the Enclave he decided to try his hand at travelling there instead of settling down again. Got with Cass's mother for a while but once again decided to go. It is possible however that Cass's mother walked all the way from east of the Colorado to New Arroyo. Vault City is part of NCR by the time Cass was born, Cassidy used to live there, it is further east than most parts of NCR at the time and Cass ends up retiring there if you convince her to leave the Mojave and head back west. So I'd place my bets on her being from Vault City.
 
Nice thanks for the info Knight, I haven't finished my New Vegas playthrough yet so it's good to know. Personally I like it better if Cass was born in New Arroyo, just that connection with the Chosen One (maybe the Chosen One was there at her birth). And her mom could have been from the East then just traveled out West to New Arroyo as an adult, then after Cassidy left moved her and Cass to Vault City..

On a side note, Knight your canon Courier background intrigues me. Please elaborate if you have more details...
 
Knight Captain Kerr said:
Huh, my canon Courier is from New Arroyo, helps explain that Vault 13 suit too. I don't think Cass was born in New Arroyo based off this dialogue when you ask her about her parents. Her mother wasn't from Arroyo rather she was from one of the tribes east of the Colorado.

  • ↑ The Courier: "Your mother was a tribal?"
    Rose of Sharon Cassidy: "You know, like one of the tribes from the East - we got 'em out West, too. NCR's herding 'em up, though, domesticating them. Mom was from East of the Colorado, though, not sure what tribe. Was before the time Caesar rounded them up, made them Legion. She walked a hell of a way until she crossed paths with my Dad and he convinced her to stop walking. And lucky for me, he was a horny old bastard."
    (Rose of Sharon Cassidy's dialogue)
  • ↑ The Courier: "Tell me about your Dad."
    Rose of Sharon Cassidy: "Not much to tell. He ended up walking East one day when I was young and never came back. Not a family deserter like some, though. Mom died waiting for him, and she had me to raise. She was sick but she held off dying until I was old enough to be getting into trouble with boys. As for Dad, I figure he just got himself lost or dead. Happens... and I'm not all boo-hoo about it, so save your glass for someone who's crying."
    The Courier: "Any idea why he went East?"
    Rose of Sharon Cassidy: "Not a clue. When he left, I was too in my crib to understand why, and around the time Mom passed, I was too into my teens to listen. Got his name, got this pendant, and that's about it. Gift from my Dad, along with my name. Rose of Sharon Cassidy. Mom said he got the name out of some Old World book about dirt pilgrims. Name sure sounds sweet, though. Anyway, pendant's a little rose. Originally thought it was one of Mom's tribal necklaces, but no, came from Dad."
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Cassidy talks about how he'd like to travel to the Midwest, it's plausible that after helping the Chosen One defeat the Enclave he decided to try his hand at travelling there instead of settling down again. Got with Cass's mother for a while but once again decided to go. It is possible however that Cass's mother walked all the way from east of the Colorado to New Arroyo. Vault City is part of NCR by the time Cass was born, Cassidy used to live there, it is further east than most parts of NCR at the time and Cass ends up retiring there if you convince her to leave the Mojave and head back west. So I'd place my bets on her being from Vault City.
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I never thought of that your explanation makes perfect sense.
 
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