Demo is, well, disappointing...

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hiya everyone,
Ive read a lot of the posts and I think all of the ones about ppl's thoughts of the demo. I agree with A LOT of them. I feared that Tactics would prove disappointing, knowingly because its not really a RPG. But I still had hope, at least that it would have a lot of RPG elements, after all that is what they said it would be... Anyway, firstly i had to get latest sound drivers cause the game wouldnt start and as a result the comp would crash but i got over that. Then, i thought the tutorials were quite alright, some being a little too straight forward though but im not new to Fallout. I totally agree with the fact that the cursor and how you could hold the button and get lots of options on what to do with things (look, use etc) is screwed up now, that was really convient and useful. As much as this wasnt supposed to be a RPG I really didnt want another baldurs gate type game. But thats what i got. And i do agree with someone saying that it has turned into a clickfest cause you have to control so many factors in 6 ppl. In fact, what i found myself doing a lot of the time was using just one of the guys, particularly the sniper and clearing areas with him before everyone moved along. I found the controlling too difficult.
Since ppl are complaining about the graphics ill say what i can about that as well. My monitor failed on me and as a result im playing on a P2 366 notebook, with a 8mb card. I bet this actually creates a worse impression of the game on me cause it gets slow and laggy and well just not nice. (Cool notebook tho, it even has 128mb ram). What the notebook does though is that all the games on it, unless totally very lo-res and 2d look grainy, therefore the graphics for me look just like F1 and 2. But i can just imagine how "clean" it will be on my tbird 900 geforce 2 etc... well anyway, the game and what it is actually meant to be isnt bad at all, but its not to much of my game, ill still get it cause its simply fallout, thats enuff for me. Bottom line is i dont like it too much and it didnt meet a lot of my expectations, and i sincerely hope it plays NO i stress NO impact on what Fallout 3 is gonna be. In fact i'd be happy if they came out with Fallout 3 with everything exactly the same as F2 but with new content. I really think thats what a lot of us actually want. Anyway, as a game without linking it to any other games its alright, but prob is its supposed to be great since it bears the Fallout title. Oh well...
Fedor
 
I don't know about hope. This demo pretty much crushes most of the hope I had for the game. After all, they said the Turn Based mode would be just like Fallout's.. It's definitely not.
 
Yeah, I've been waiting for you to join the resistance, Rosh. ;)

I hate to admit this, but it looks like when we argued about FOT when it was first announced, you were dead on the money. I think that the ultimate case is that the TB play has been shangai'ed to make the real time play viable.

FOT isn't an attempt to modernize, it's an attempt to bastardize.
 
Hmm...

I think what all the fallouts sites should do is to have their reigstered users to answer some kind of a close poll - as to what's their opinion of FOT.

I bet that most of the fallout fans would say they DON'T LIKE the game that will come out.

I also bet that whoever would answer that pole who ISN'T the original fallout fan, would say he DOES like it.

The conclusion is simple.
This game was made for alot of people - but not for us.
It's alot of things - but not Fallout.
It's new - but it sucks.

It's "WASTELAND-BATTLES - A REAL TIME CLICKFEST IN A CLEAN POST-APOCALYPTIC WORLD"


Klayhamn - ThieFoRent - and a member of the ANTI-FOT and "The Australians murdered my Fallout" rebel groups.
 
RE: Hmm...

Yeah well it's real painful to see what they've done with a Fallout name game, it sure sux for me but im not saying it does for everyone... You're right Klayhamn, it's a lot of things - but not Fallout, and that's what makes it suck for me... I really hate the clickfest part of it, cause it really is a big click fest, and im not used to and dont like those kind of games. And they really should have called it BG3 : Shadows of Fallout. Or something like that. I can add one thing and that is the fact that esp. for me playing on this notebook while my monitor is getting fixed i can't even play the demo the way it should be cause the game doesnt run fast or smoothly enough, and ill add the fact that the notebook meets all the requirements and in fact surpasses all... My summary is:
Blah.
Done.
Fedor
 
RE: Hmm...

Theres been games that used fallouts fighting system before falout was made and games that used BG system to, A combat system doesnt define a game. Its the world, the characters.

To stay true to Fallout they dont need the same combat system; Final fantasy is still final fantasy even though they changed the fighting system, Zelda is still zelda even though it went 3d; I liked fallout2 cause of the wacky characters and side quest I mean what game allows you to be a porn star, and how you can be evil or good.

What good would it be to reuse the game and just add a diff story to it, Ill tell you what another Tomb Raider ;D

Will FOT have this I dont know, I hope they do.
 
RE: Hmm...

My point exactly, at least some people understand... *Sigh of relief*
 
RE: Hmm...

I just wrote an article for vault13.net about the balance problems. It's entitled "Of Mice and Balance" and there's a link to it from their news page.
 
WOW

Wow - i think you're on to something, genius...

Then i bet that BATMAN - THE ORIGINAL comics of the Dark Knight - is the same thing as the childish batman cartoon, or the same as the MOVIES....

After all, the FORMAT doesn't define the thing - only the CHARACTERS and world does...

World + Characters is not all that makes a game, and btw, it is not even PRESENTED WELL in FO:T - unlike FO1 and 2, which presented the world perfectly

characters?
what characters are in a battle oriented squad game...

I would have written more but my soup is getting cold...

Fallout is ALSO the battle system, as well as the interface, the fonts, and the TEXTURES....


Klayhamn - ThieFoRent
 
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