do the Fallout 1/2 engines support higher resolution videos?

agris

agris

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After seeing the results of neural network upscaling of Gothic 1 and 2 videos, I've been thinking about taking the same approach with the Fallout 1 and 2 videos, either in 720p or 1080p. But, if I were to do this and be able to pack the videos back into the correct file format (of which I know nothing of; I'm not even sure this is possible), can the engine with sfall + hi-res play those videos correctly?
 
Lexx said:
Nope, doesn't work. I converted all videos some months ago and toyed around with it. Don't know if it's different with the .avi settings, though. Apparently that stuff was fixed or at least look at some time after.

/Edit: https://www.nma-fallout.com/threads/converting-video-to-mve.218520/
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Ok, so if I understand that thread correctly, Mr. Stalin is the developer of sfall and he's got windowed mode .avi working, but not fullscreen and he doesn't feel as if his skills are well suited to the task.

Separately, you've done the work on upscaling the videos. I saw your youtube demos. What was the issue you had here?

Lexx said:
That's all outside of my skill range, and I wasn't even able to correctly convert videos to run in 640px without issues. So from my side it's pretty much dead.
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Well, I wasn't able to convert them back and have them work in the game. But even if I were able to convert them back, it probably wouldn't have made a big difference, because mve only supports 640x480px if the wiki information is correct (Fo2 videos are using widescreen, thus look bigger... but they aren't).

Upscaling the videos, then downscaling them will make them look sharper, but as I said... not sure if that makes such a big visual difference here to be worth the troubles.
 
Lexx said:
Upscaling the videos, then downscaling them will make them look sharper, but as I said... not sure if that makes such a big visual difference here to be worth the troubles.
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What video format were the fallout 1 videos in after scaling them to 640x480, but before converting them to MVE? Would you be willing to share one of those with me? I can poke at trying to make the MVE conversion work in the short-term.
 
Here are resized videos: http://ul.to/f25pl8es

Bigger than 640x480px, though, so you have to resize them once more. I wanted to upload my non-downscaled videos first, but that's over 4GB of stuff. I might do this later...

/Edit: Here are the raw files. The archive is big, I won't keep it online forever.
 
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Lexx said:
Here are resized videos: http://ul.to/f25pl8es

Bigger than 640x480px, though, so you have to resize them once more. I wanted to upload my non-downscaled videos first, but that's over 4GB of stuff. I might do this later...

/Edit: Here are the raw files. The archive is big, I won't keep it online forever.
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Thanks, I've got some A/V editing experience so I'd like to give this a shot. Downloading both now, feel free to take the raw files offline tomorrow.

edit: initial testing is positive, I can recompile AVIs into MVEs that will play in Fallout1in2. I looked at your raw (reduced took forever to download with that host) files, and saw that (at least) the audio stream encoding was different for your 4x avi than what mve2avi generates. I'll know more once I poke at the reduced resolution files.
 
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If You're really looking into adding higher resolution videos, than check Sfall function with alternative video formats. ask @NovaRain what are the requiremets in order for the video to be compatible and what maximum resolution does sfall allow the alternative video formats to be. as for Nevada the videos were 640x480 as someone posted in a thread not so long ago ( prolly Lexx's thread with similar question).
 
gustarballs1983 said:
If You're really looking into adding higher resolution videos, than check Sfall function with alternative video formats. ask @NovaRain what are the requiremets in order for the video to be compatible and what maximum resolution does sfall allow the alternative video formats to be. as for Nevada the videos were 640x480 as someone posted in a thread not so long ago ( prolly Lexx's thread with similar question).
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I know - that's why as step 1) I am trying to take a 640x480 movie, encode it into .mve, and ensure that it plays in the fallout 2 engine. That's why I asked what I did in the Nevada thread. That's been done, I should be able to replicate it.

If you read the thread that Lexx linked, Mr. Stalin could only get other containers (I think .avi) playing in windowed dx9 mode. It seems reasonable to try to get upscaled Fallout 1 videos in 640x480 .MVE playing in the fallout 2 engine first, before trying to tackle whatever directX mess needs to be untangled with sfall. The fact that Nevada has done this already is why it should be an easy(-er) first step.
 
I've already found a way for Fallout2 engine + recent sfall to load higher resolution videos they just need a proper codec to encode and .avi extension. basically you can launch anything size wise up to Fallout2's current resolution (be it Sfall or HRP).

Big videos require high bitrate and especially that Sfall does not support video compression codecs, the video bitrate goes even higher.
req:

ddraw.ini
[Graphics]
Mode=4
AllowDShowMovies=1

[Misc]
MovieXX=<moviename>.avi

fallout2.cfg
[system]
art_cache_size=512


and a non system Hard Drive with 20+ MB/s random read. HQ SSDs and M.2 only.
if system hard drive req goes even higher.
 
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