Fallout 3 New Beginnings

[Tyrathect]

So I've been reading through the forum looking at some of the ideas for the beginning of Fallout 3 like, "you are the bastard child of the hero of F2"(sorry not sure who said this) etc. so I started thinking about what hasn't been done yet and I thought I'd just see what ideas people have and give my own so please read my idea and glorify it or flame it as you please, and/or post your own idea.
Here it is: You start out as some descendant of the vault dweller/hero of F2 (this is pretty much a given IMHO) but you don't live in the comfort of New Arroyo with the Vault 13 inhabitants and Arroyans, instead you were captured during a raid by slavers and have been a slave ever since, now (this is where you could deviate, you could either have the PC start in a slaver camp, or in a home or a business as someones slave) you have to escape and get revenge, return to your home etc.
I realize these are just daydreams now that Bethseda has F3 in their hot little hands now but dreams are still good things and it's always fun hearing people's ideas.

 

[Tyrathect]

Okay darn it I'm not the only fan of F2 that has daydreamed up his/her own beginning to F3!...Am I?

 

[Big T]

I don't know about FO3, but I'd like to see Fallout 2a, where your ancestor in Fallout took the evil path. It seemed a little limited to me that it assumes you played as a goodie.

It'd be a hell of a lot different from FO2 though. There'd be pretty much no people left, maybe an underground resistance against the muties though. Or you could follow the whole "I wanna be a supermutant or a dethclawe!!1!"

 

[Roshambo]

Okay darn it I'm not the only fan of F2 that has daydreamed up his/her own beginning to F3!...Am I?

First off, no double-posting. If people avoid this topic, it's likely for a very good reason. Instead of discussing elements that could be used in a variety of alterations of character and setting subjects (i.e. many ideas in the thread where I discussed the "odd protective beast"), your post went into the format of a drunken bar crawl. Nobody bothers with the details, it is merely from point A to point B without much reason for the event happening.

Your "idea", however, reads like a bad fanfic. A developer can't really use a concept with specific A to B construct of ideas, else it would be "Oh, how lame, it was just like on the forum." It also bends into the realm of copyright laws, as the developers would have used an idea likely without permission.

So what does empty storyline speculation of this sort go, and why do people avoid these threads? Because they go nowhere, fast. It reads like a brief bit of "wouldn't it be COOL if..." scenarios that are, again, like poorly thought-out fanfiction without even bothering to be halfway entertaining to the reader nor give any other reason for said reader to waste their time past the part where the text colon was ground zero for when your colon took a death hold upon your neck.

These topics have no practical purpose in discussing the setting, the presentation/style of Fallout, nor anything that would be really creative and add to any potential sequel IF the developer even thought of using it in the first place.

Seriously, most people here would read the crumpled rolls of paper from Troika's wastebasket than these topics. Please don't act as if we're supposed to be grateful that some AOLer decides to post their thirty seconds of "effort" as a "game designer". Other than that, I have to note a basic failure of understanding the English language, as following the descendents of The Vault Dweller and The Chosen One in the context you have put it in would hardly be "New Beginnings", other than the possibility that you were expecting people to throw out a load of equally half-formed "ideas" similar to yours?

 

[gonzo13]

I am sorry Rosh, but i have to disagree.

I think posting ideas for what you would like in an FO3 storyline is perfectly in line with this forum. For god's sakes, that is all we did here for something like two or three years after FO2, before Tactics came out. We sat here and posted ideas as to how the story should progress in sequels, prequels, and what happened in between the two games, and all kinds of shit. That, and we BITCHED about how nobody was listening to us. Bitched, and bitched, and bitched, and romanticized about FO 1 & 2, and then bitched some more about how FO1 was too short and FO2 was too long and rushed unfinished to sales, and then we wrote unimaginable amounts about how each of us thought FO3 should be made including the storyline.

So if you want to knock the kid about being unimaginative, go ahead, if you want to say he doesn't know how to come up with something original, go ahead, no writing skills, OK...... but please do not knock him for having a story-line idea of his own. That is not fair.

You are right this is a "wouldn't it be cool if...." thread, but you are also right when you point out that people avoid these threads and so if you do not want to participate then don't. If you would rather

read the crumpled rolls of paper from Troika's wastebasket than these topics

, then do so. Nobody forces you to do anything, least of all reading threads like this.

If this kid has an idea then let him post it. If he wants to try to be a developer some day, then let him try, you learn by doing and failing. This isn't the worst I have read by far here on this forum.

This is a conversation among friends, and anyone is allowed to disagree, and anyone is allowed to ignore it. Its harmless, he hasn't insulted anyone, in fact his whole post seems timid to me.

 

[Roshambo]

I am sorry Rosh, but i have to disagree.

I think posting ideas for what you would like in an FO3 storyline is perfectly in line with this forum. For god's sakes, that is all we did here for something like two or three years after FO2, before Tactics came out. We sat here and posted ideas as to how the story should progress in sequels, prequels, and what happened in between the two games, and all kinds of shit. That, and we BITCHED about how nobody was listening to us. Bitched, and bitched, and bitched, and romanticized about FO 1 & 2, and then bitched some more about how FO1 was too short and FO2 was too long and rushed unfinished to sales, and then we wrote unimaginable amounts about how each of us thought FO3 should be made including the storyline.

Note that it was not about posting story speculation or what would happen as a result of some action in the previous games, not through something that reads like a shitty Final Fantasy fanfic but with the words Mad-Libbed barely into the Fallout universe. Origin speculations are one thing. Writing up poor fanfic and try to believe that everyone is going to be receptive to it is quite insane.

We know it will not be used, especially since as I've mentioned before copyright would be an issue. Speculation is fine, but doing nothing but posting "come up with some idea that will never be used and essentially waste your time writing a bad fanfic summary like I have".

Hence, vague concept constructs should be used when discussing things of this sort, with examples given; the ones used here were too specific to be of any use to anyone. Other topics here more frequently have enough evident thought behind them and with some sense of what might be useful to suggest. For instance, I know my DeathClaw idea could be and has been bastardized into a couple of other situations. They are different enough in subject and structured so that they may be used with a number of other actors in place of those I used.

That was not what went on here, and sorry sonny, the thread had the mange, I had to put it down.

I was also explaining why nobody really replied to him in the time they were expecting. There is no logical construct behind that post aside, frankly, mental dribble. Posting what you would like the story to be in a five minute fanfic isn't really that constructive in any way, and are a dime a dozen around the more naive of forums.

So if you want to knock the kid about being unimaginative, go ahead, if you want to say he doesn't know how to come up with something original, go ahead, no writing skills, OK...... but please do not knock him for having a story-line idea of his own. That is not fair.

Please point out where I have been unfair. I have clearly explained the problem with these topics and the evident lack of any thought put behind the initial post. Not really much more. Now, if you think everone should be allowed to post every inane bit of brain droppings they care to here under the pretense that it has "Fallout 3" in the subject, I will again state that drivel of that sort shouldn't be on the forum.

Big T, being a bit more wise to forum use, posted in vague origins that could be vague enough for the developers to use, and not be specific enough to cause copyright problems or read like shitty fanfic.

You are right this is a "wouldn't it be cool if...." thread, but you are also right when you point out that people avoid these threads and so if you do not want to participate then don't. If you would rather (snip idiotic use of quote tags) read the crumpled rolls of paper from Troika's wastebasket than these topics (/snip idiotic use of quote tags), then do so. Nobody forces you to do anything, least of all reading threads like this.

If this kid has an idea then let him post it. If he wants to try to be a developer some day, then let him try, you learn by doing and failing. This isn't the worst I have read by far here on this forum.

I'm sorry, did you just try to tell me what to do on my own forum?

This is a conversation among friends, and anyone is allowed to disagree, and anyone is allowed to ignore it. Its harmless, he hasn't insulted anyone, in fact his whole post seems timid to me.

Too bad your reading level didn't include enough ability to understand the second "whole post", which puts this clearly. I suppose you'll try to claim that it means nothing when they go to violate the forum rules as well.