Fallout 3 review: PSM3

Brother None

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We put up a few quotes from PSM3's 90/100 Fallout 3 review earlier, but here's a lot more of it and let me tell you, it's the most negative, criticism-filled 90/100 review I've ever seen.<blockquote>+ A free-roaming epic for FPS fans?
+ Almost 100 hours of gameplay?
+ Celebrity voices and '50s music?
- As consistently good as Oblivion

Fallout's one of the biggest, deepest RPGs on PS3. Not a role-playing fan? It's also a brutal and accomplished FPS. It tells an incredible story across 100+ hours, but it's also packed with Call of Duty-style set pieces. As we type, we're 20 hours in and have finished the main story, but the volume of worthy remaining side quests is boggling.
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The Capital Wasteland stretches for miles in every direction, and what you do now is your choice. The game nudges you towards Megaton, a nearby shanty town constructed from the remains of a crashed jumbo jet, but you needn't bother. The main 'quest' features the game's best set-pieces, but if you want to build stats, gather weapons and money to buy supplies, it's wise to attempt one of the game's myriad side quests. The wastes look barren and empty, but every few miles you'll bump into someone looking for help or an offer of work. Problem is, the side quests aren't that satisfying. You can spend an hour traipsing through a subway tunnel fighting giant ants, only to find some low-level loot and a handful of bottle caps (the game's currency) at the end. Quests that offer up moral quandaries result in little more than raised or lowered karma (your character's good/evil meter) and an underwhelming reward. In Oblivion you felt as if your choices were affecting communities, but the scope of your actions in Fallout is disappointingly limted.
By any other standards, the game's ripe with highlight. In a town called Canterbury Commons, two rival superheroes (the Antagoniser and the Mechanist) are at battle, turning the streets into a warzone and terrorizing its residents. The mayor asks for your help, and you end up battling through each hero's secret underground lair to end their reign of terror. You even get their ridiculous costumes as a reward if you finish the quest in a certain way. And working for the slavers (human slavery is rife in the world of Fallout) is deliciously evil; especially when you're tricking hapless eight year-old kids into a life over eternal, thankless servitude.
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Fallout 3's world looks incredible, tinged by the chill of the desolate, post-apocalyptic emptiness. But, sadly, the PS3 version compares poorly to its Xbox and PC counterparts. It's not a deal-breaker, but PS3 clearly wasn't the lead platform -disappointing since Oblivion looked better on PS3 than on Xbox.
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Our only major gripe is the weak voice acting, which often doesn't match the face of the person it's coming from. Craggy-faced raiders will threaten you in a perfectly-intoned medieval brogue and every child has the same voice. It's a critical oversight, and shatters the illusion that you're in another world. The celebrity voice talent, however, is excellent. Liam Neeson has gravitas as your father, Malcolm McDowell is excellently pompous as the mysterious president Eden and Ron Perlman reprises his narrator's role from the first two games.
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Fallout's genius is that there's so much to see, do and discover, and it's rare you'll find a character who doesn't have a quest or directions to a new location. The game buckles under the weight of its own ambition in some of the epic scenes at the end (it can't emulated Call of Duty-style set-pieceS), but wandering the wastes, finding new towns and getting involved in the world's politics is a thrill. The role-playing isn't far-reaching as Oblivion and as an FPS it's merely above average, but there's no other shooters on PS3 as deeply imaginative and rewarding. Only BioShock offers such a consistent, well-designed world.
Until you've sat with it for 30 hours, from birth to epic ending, you won't realise how engrossing it is. The freedom may scare people used to shooters like Resistance and the simplified customisation might disappoint hardcore RPGers, but if ever a game was worthy broadening your horizons for, this is it.
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Better than Oblivion?
Find out how F3 compares to Bethesda's epic RPG...


Is it better? Well, frankly, no, it improves a lot of gameplay niggles, but the overall experience is less consistently entertaining. And also, because so much is unchanged, it doesn't feel as fresh as Oblivion did when we first played it. The dialogue is a lot better, as are the character models. They're still ugly and slightly emotionless, but a far cry from the sloth-mouthed meat puppets of Cyrodiil. But the quests they give aren't as interesting or memorable. Remember stepping into the painting in Cheydinhal? Or pirates hijacking the Bloated Float? And the Dark Brotherhood quests? There's nothing nearly as imaginative or memorably in Fallout, save for a few key missions in the main quests.
And the environment's just not as much fun to explore. It's gorgeous, sure, but the sweeping fields of Oblivion were a joy to ramble in, unlike Fallout's desolate wasteland. Cyrodiil was split into distinct, varied regions - the mountains, the swamps, the forest - whereas DC is all grey gloom and lots of scattered debris and rubbled.
Things that are superior include the loading times (probably improved byu about 70%) and how you can wait for a different time of day without the game having load in all the 'night' textures. Ranged combat is also a lot more robust, although the AI is still incredibly dim, with enemies rarelu making intelligent use of cover during gunfights. There's a lot of negativity here, but if you loved Oblivion, you'll love Fallout 3. Simple. You just won't be as enthralled by the world.</blockquote>Thanks Ausir.
 
All these 9.0/10, or 90/100 look suspicious, as if 90 was the minimum score that bethesda allows all these so called journalists :scratch:

Is it better? Well, frankly, no, it improves a lot of gameplay niggles, but the overall experience is less consistently entertaining. And also, because so much is unchanged, it doesn't feel as fresh as Oblivion did when we first played it

Well, this doesn't sound too good for the oblivion fans :)
 
So, even in the ways Fallout 3 was closest to the originals,"The dumbed down RPG elements and memorable quests" are not even as good as Oblivions? The game is not as good as an RPG as fricken Oblivion? Seriously, what the flying fuck? Thats kinda like when John Lennon was asked if he thought if Ringo was the best drummer in the world and he replied "He's not even the best drummer in the Beatles". We all know Ringo is a lackluster drummer, but Jesus christ! It's something that can be dissed by it's own origin! Hahahaha.
 
WHAT!! Superheros in Fallout? In a world where survival is of the utmost importance, don't you think that petty disputes between two men in costumes would stand out a little bit? This sort of reminds me of the martial arts theme in San Fran. Maybe these are actual gangs just with crazy leaders. It still sounds like shit.
 
Holy crap, Bethesda has managed the impossible


yeah thy managed to bribe / bully the entire game media community to do their bidding. As such every positive review with a good score is biased and ridiculous :P

would be easyer to just make this as an announcement , since it looks like that 90+ is gonna prolly be the general score in most of the reviews incoming. Just so people dent repeat themself at every news add :lol:
 
TheRatKing said:
Maybe these are actual gangs just with crazy leaders.

Nope. AntAgonist is a nutso in an ant suit who control ants, while the Mechanist has control over a large contingent of robots. And they fight. And you have to go through dungeons to fight them.

Hey guys, hey guys, remember how horribly badly designed and boring the dungeon crawls in Oblivion were? Good thing they're repeating the dungeon crawl theme in Fallout 3 huh?
 
Wait, so there aren't any actual humans in the gangs (apart from the leaders)? Wow, ants versus robots, the ultimate in gaming experiences. I expect that this is where you get the fabled ant strength whatever increase. The power of the ant be with you brother.

Also, nice job with the creative names Bethesda, really. AntAgonist? Mechanist?
 
And then you can wear their freaking suits as a "reward".

This is beginning to sound more and more like a Monty Python game.
 
Wait, so there aren't any actual humans in the gangs (apart from the leaders)? Wow, ants versus robots, the ultimate in gaming experiences. I expect that this is where you get the fabled ant strength whatever increase. The power of the ant be with you brother.

No, the ant serum guy is a different person.
 
Brother None said:
Nope. AntAgonist is a nutso in an ant suit who control ants, while the Mechanist has control over a large contingent of robots. And they fight. And you have to go through dungeons to fight them.

Hey guys, hey guys, remember how horribly badly designed and boring the dungeon crawls in Oblivion were? Good thing they're repeating the dungeon crawl theme in Fallout 3 huh?

Damn..... superheroes controling ants and robots? And this comes from people who think that humour in F2 was silly? :drunk: I guess they tried to make a post apacolyptic world, as seen from the eyes of a child :)
 
TheRatKing said:
I expect that this is where you get the fabled ant strength whatever increase.

[spoiler:af018fcf3a]No. That's in the quest where you have to save a town from fire ants, which were accidentally created by a scientist looking to return giant ants to normal size.[/spoiler:af018fcf3a]
 
Pope Viper said:
And then you can wear their freaking suits as a "reward".

This is beginning to sound more and more like a Monty Python game.

I bet those rewards will give you nifty stat bonuses too
 
I just threw up in my mouth a little, or maybe Bethesda did. Either way, there's a horrific taste in my mouth and an aching in my gut from reading this.

Oh well. C'est la vie. Here's looking toward Mutants Rising. :D
 
More proof that the game was trying to be too much for too many people.

Oblivion. Far reaching. Giggle.



The role-playing isn't far-reaching as Oblivion and as an FPS it's merely above average
 
"We at PSM were unthrilled by the quests. We were expecting flamming dogs, fetch quests, and kill X amount of enemy, but instead we got some dumb android quest and a quest where you steal children. We wanted more immatureness then just the AntAgonizer and the Mechanist."
 
Well that was frankly ridiculous. The entire review points to a score of 65/100...at absolute max.

How much positive was cut out of that review?
 
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