FO 1: Crashing in the Glow

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First time out of the vault
Game: Fallout 1
Error: Crashing with a Windows Application Error
OS: Win2k (currently updated)
Processor: AMD Athlon XP 3000
Memory: 512MB

Description: When I attempt to leave the Glow via the rope on the first level, or attempt to go to levels 4 or 6 using the elevator located on the 3rd level, the screen turns black, graphics seem to freeze, and in the background an Application Error pops up. Checked the forums some and didn't see this error right off, maybe I missed something, but I definitely didn't see anything like it aside from people complaining about getting too many rads. :roll:

I vaguely remember something like this happening before when I played years ago (~1999-2000), but I don't recall what the fix for it is. I've patched it to the 1.1 version, and no, it's not a pirated version. If anyone has any idea about how to fix it, I'd be real appreciative. Was kind of feeling a nostalgic vibe, have already played Fallout 2 not that long ago.

Oh yeah, and yes, again, I checked through the stickie FAQ. This is more of an actual application error than probably a directx or "reinstall fix" error. Doesn't seem offhand to have anything to do with the graphics, and I've installed this thing manually, so copying files again probably won't change much (I picked through the cfg and all paths seem correct). Just wanted to make sure that was all perfectly clear and good.
 
If you didn't visit the lower levels of the Glow already, it would seem the problem is with the map you're on. You could try the trick of replacing the glow1.sav file (or whatever it's called) with one from another game and see if that works. Could possibly have some wacky effects.
 
Uhm, you must have corrupted the map you're on somehow. It can't be about the lower Glow map since it crashes when you exit to ground level as well.

Have you by any chance used explosives (known to corrupt maps on occasions)? Though it beats me why you would...

Per's right, replacing the file (in your save game, not in-game) might do the trick. Hopefully. Start a new game, go to the glow, save in a new slot and copy the file from the new slot to the old slot, overwriting.
 
I searched the forums and this was the closest topic i could find that relates to my problem.

In the glow, on level 4 when i enter the Red card elevator and go to level 3 the screen fades out black and freezes, the music is still playing in the background and i get no errors of any kind. I have been on all the levels of the glow and havn't used any explosives. Could this be a .map error aswell ? even thought i have allready been to Level 3? I will attempt to replace the map file later on tonight and then post saying wether it works or not.

EDIT: I just remembered i have used Grenades (Frag, Plasma and Electric) on the Robots on the lower Levels. Would Grenades of corrupted the map ? Oh, i was wondering, what are the effects of replaceing the map anyhow ?
 
Sorry for Double Posting, but replacing the GLOW1 and GLOW2 map files doesnt have any effect, it still screws up. I noticed when i Ctrl-Alt-Del out i have a Application Error, but i cant view it, so i dont know the error.
 
Yah, so instead of bumping, you can edit and also PM someone who already answered to take a look again at the situation.

I really need to update this script so that it will show newly edited posts with the new post indicator. That is one mod I miss from vBulletin, and I believe it exists somewhere for this one as well. If not, more programming I have to do...
 
ShadowSnake said:
I apologise for that, sorry.

Ill PM Sliencer and see what he says.

No need to PM now.
Sorry, I will be a bit more clear. :)

When you already have made a post, and it has gone awhile with no replies and you need to bring back interest to the topic when you have made an edit from the original post, then go ahead and PM someone from the topic and ask them if they have anything further to add given your newly edited information.
 
Ok, that makes sense. :)

Do you know of any solution to my problem? At the moment i'm stuck on Level 4, I've tried replacing all of the files regarding the Glow maps, but nothing seems to work. I'm currently not willing to restart the whole game as I foolishly used only 2 save slots which are both within The glow.
 
Well, in the immortal words of Bender, you're probably boned. The Glow isn't that far into the game, relatively speaking if you played through the common way.

The only other thing I can think of is to try and remove the old map files entirely from the save folders, but back them up first. It might rebuild them all completely as you go back in and load the game, or might crash as it tries to load up the save file without a full specific map state saved. I think it might be worth a try, as a change from replacing the maps, the code might handle it differently when the maps just aren't there and it has to rebuild them, and the former effect seems more likely in any case.
 
I quess I went the unconventional way, heh. I completed most of the game, I'm just clearing up the last few quests that I have to do. Joining the Brotherhood is allways been last on my list.

I tried removing the map files, that doesnt work as I cant load the save game. So I then tried to just remove glow1 but that doesnt work either. Looks like im starting again then, ill join the brotherhood early on in the game so if this isn't isolated to that save game I wont have much to reapet. Thanks for your Help and everything.
 
That might have something to do with it, especially if you did the Cathedral or the Military Base before joining the Brotherhood. I don't think the developers anticipated that, so fulfilling the mission requirement to join the Brotherhood may be tied in with something else to cause a crash. Without looking at it exactly, I don't know, but do keep in mind what you do differently and see if you get a different result, so there might be a chance to nail down exactly what causes this.
 
ShadowSnake said:
I tried removing the map files, that doesnt work as I cant load the save game.

You have to delete the files after loading the game but before going to the map in question. So it might still work.
 
sorry for refreshing such old topic, but maybe it would enlighten this problem at least a little to someone (who makes some patches or whatever).
i also had the error (i'm plying v1.32PL + children patch - it shows 1.2 in the bottom of menu screen, but without the children patch there simply are no children, maybe it got something to do with the version of the game- mine was included to a gamers magazine)
anyway at first i had the error, also couldn't go down to floor 3, but then i loaded some previous save and did all the necessary stuff again and it simply worked well
the only differences i remember is that when the bug occurred the dog was killed by a robot and i by mistake tried to load the first holodisc twice and it said that the data is already loaded to the pipboy and then when i found next holodisc and tried to load it i also couldnt (showed the same message as when i was trying to load the first twice...)
that's my first post here (i hope not the last though) so please be understanding....
 
Fallout 1 Glow Crash Levels 4+

Hey there, I'm new to the forum, and was wondering if someone knew the answer to a certain bug that causes the game to crash as soon as you take the elevator down to either levels 4 or 6, from level 3, in the glow, I can see my monitor switch resolutions back to the desktop, and the screen simply goes black, with an error sound, ctrl-alt-delete opens the task manager, and allows me to see that theres an error box open, however its covered by the now black fallout window, not allowing me to see its contents, this happens every time, without fail. A very similar bug was reported in this thread http://www.nma-fallout.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=6911&highlight=cathedral+crash but never actually got solved, there were several proposed solutions, none of which worked for me and several of the other people on the thread, soon after going off-topic and then someone posting up an endgame save, then being called solved and the thread dying, but I don't simply wish to see the ending, I wish to play through the game, if anyone has any other solutions to this, please post them, please note that I wish to proceed through the rest of the glow, not simply exiting and leaving it unfinished, thank you.
 
It seems that the map that the game tries to load on entering Glow floors 4-6 (GLOW2.MAP if my memory serves me right) is corrupted.

Have you entered this map successfully before?

Have you any mods installed?

EDIT: Merged. Please read through the thread again here. If it's not possible to fix this problem, you can omit the Glow or start another playthrough.

Can you leave the Glow to the surface?
 
Yeah, i'm using two mods, first is the 1.3.4 patch(well, thats what it says on the name of it on this site, but upon downloading the readme states it is the 1.3.3 patch) and an npc mod(different than the one on this site, allows you to have the human npcs equip different armor, I used it on two previous playthroughs a while back, and had no problems with it), I tried using the un...whatever it is, to get the map files out of the master.dat, but it said it was an invalid version of the file, so I can't simply replace the glow map files unless someone sends 'em.
 
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