[FO2] I need help with my char creation

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I need help with my char creation

Okay since I played FOT i reinstalled FO2, so i forgot everything, now my guy has 4 str and the rifle i have says i need a min of 5 so should I start over with a min of 5 str.
 
RE: Depends:

Well im going for a sharp shooter so with pistols and smg im set(doubt the str is high on them) but on the sniper rifles will they all require 5str and higher.
 
RE: Depends:

Not having enough strength takes off 20% chance to hit the person, for each strength point you are under the requirement. Just increase your guns skill more and it won't make that much difference if you use a weapon that is a bit too heavy.

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RE: I need help with my char creation

I think I can help you,

There is a perk you can get increases your strength for determing if the weapon is too heavy. But then again you could just use PA or the stat increase module.

But anyway here's the perk:

Weapon Handling
+3 strength for weapons
Ranks:1
Requirement: 5 Agility
Level: 12 :(

(Mabey not the best thing to wait for, seeing you get it only at level 12. But it still does increase your strength)

-That is all

-MOTE
 
RE: I need help with my char creation

Here's how to get almost perfect 10's on all your skills, except for Luck at 9,using Gifted and Small Frame.
1)Strength 4,+1 on Gain Strength perk,+1 on module,+4 with power armor=10
2)Perception 8,+1 on Gain Perception perk,+1 on module=10
3)Endurance 9,+1 on Gain Endurance=10
4)Intell 8,+1 on Gain Intell.,+1 on module=10
5)Charisma 7,+1 on Gain Charisma,+1 on module,+1 wearing shades=10
6)Agility 9,+1 on Gain Agility=10
7)Luck 3,+1 on Gain Luck perk,+2 for a zeta scan(save before trying),+3 on Pariah dog encounter(save before trying this too)(When you enter map,don't move, shoot dog once and end combat.Now walk up to the dog until you see him following you,then see if you've gotten the jinxed trait.If you did correctly at start you won't have it.Leave map then enter new one and kill the dog and gain 3 luck!)=9
You might want to name you character Buffy for some cool items at the Den too!
Nekron
 
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[font size=1" color="#FF0000]LAST EDITED ON Dec-27-00 AT 06:44PM (GMT)[p]Ooooh... that's how you get that damn +3 from Cujo. I never knew why people were so happy about finding him, when all I got was jinxed. Everyone was like "I got +3 luck from the bad luck dog." Now I know how. Thx.

Only problem with this is that through most of the game, you'll be a very weak little shit. And the 3 of luck doesn't help much. And the shades take up a slot. I like having a burst weapon, and a sniper weapon armed, so I'd have to get rid of one. =( And having Small Frame, and a Str of 4 will mean you won't be able to carry much more than those shades and maybe a toothpick.

But overall, a very good plan. What about the scan at San Fran? Can you only have one? Do you have to choose between the NCR and San Fran scans? What does the San Fran add again?
 
RE: I need help with my char creation

The only time you realy need your shades on is when you are speaking to someone you mean to influence with your words.(EXP:bartering).If you are fighting or just travelling the world map then by all means load up your weapons instead.Your high charisma will not affect fighting by any means.
As for carrying supplys you will be able to give mostly all to your npc's to carry for you.Basicly the only thing you need to carry is your personal guns and ammo and some stims.You might not be strong in a lifting sence but you'll have maxed action points and great perception which makes for a deadly gunfighter!
On to zeta scans,unfortunatly you can only get it done once.I'm not quite sure but I think I read somewhere that you can only gain one luck bundled with one Intell. at San Fran.
Nekron
 
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Hmm... well. True. You don't really need to always wear the shades. This is a warning for all you people out there: Don't drink and post. It affects your Int and Perception by -2 each, and some of us need those 2 points a LOT. =)

Ok.. I'll give you the "NPCs can carry equipment" thing, but that doesn't really help me. Right now, I'm a lvl 17 char with 6 Str, and 3 NPCs. My car's trunk, my inv, and all of my NPCs (Strong ones, too) are FULL with guns and ammo that I can't find anywhere to unload. I mean... I litteraly have about 50k in guns. I'm full to the rim with Improved Flamers, Assault Rifles /w expanded magazines, and Sniper Rifles. The only thing I can think of doing is heading to San Fran.

Anyway, the point is that if you have a low Str, it will still suck when it comes to carrying stuff. And I don't know about others, but I just can't leave a good weapon lieing on the ground. It seems like such a waste!

Also, what about the Prizefighter perk? And what about the San Fran Lo Pan/Dragon quest? I'm not too sure on the effects that Str have on Unarmed combat, but I'd think that you'd have a very good chance to hit, but you'd do crap damage. Am I right, or does Str have little effect on this?

My main concern with this though is weapons. There are a lot of good weapons that you won't be able to use well until you can get Power Armour, which won't happen till almost at the end of the game. +1 Str from the Gain Strength perk won't help much in utilizing a good weapon... a Str of 5 still isn't too good. I don't know how I'd be able to survive without my Bozar. =(

Also, wouldn't the low luck affect you pretty severly, too? With a Str of 4, and a long-range weapon in your hands that will loose 20%-40% because of your Str, you aren't going to have a lot of luck hitting Critical Shots with a Luck of 3. For that matter, you will probably have a lot of Critical Misses... at least until (if) you find the Bad Luck Dog (god bless that god-damn bastard).

Damn that Zeta Scan... don't those Hubologists know that we do a lot of bad crap between NCR and San Fran? Hell, I probably need a new Zeta Scan every 10 mins to clear my mind of all the bad stuff I do! You don't get to 1500 Karms by being nice and kind to slavers and highwaymen. You do it by loading them full of 15 pointy bullets from your Bozar, which you STOLE from some poor unsuspecting guards.

All in all, your starting strategy looks excellent, except for the piss-poor Str and Luck. But, if you think they don't affect the game too much, then I'm makeing my next char with these stats. What do you think? Can the game still be milked to its full potential with a low Str and Luck? Teach me, oh wise one!


Finally, the WORST thing about this. The starting traits are aweful! The gifted one is great, I always use it, but the other one ruins the game. It means I can't use the Bloody Death trait! What is the point of playing Fallout 2 if not to see the enemies' heads get blown off from your SMG fire?! >=)
 
RE: I need help with my char creation

You can finish the game pretty easily with low strength, I started with 1 strength the other day and I finished the game (I just didn't carry any weapons or armour).

There's lots of guns that only need strength 4. You'd have to use energy weapons though.

Their heads still blow off sometimes if you don't have bloody mess...

You can always just not use guns until you get the power armour. Use unarmed instead.

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RE: I need help with my char creation

Well, these stats are pretty damn good. I'm at Modoc now, and both the SMG and Hunting Rifle don't seem to be affected by the low Str, so that's good. Also, my unarmed seems to be as good as it was in my previous games, so Str doesn't have any/much affect on it. =)

One bad thing I've thought of though is that you won't be able to have 5 NPCs unless you use the Magnetic Personality perk, since you will have to take the shades off here and there. Or, maybe the game only checks charisma when you recruit NPCs? So that once you have 10 Charisma, you can get 5 NPCs, and even if your charisma falls after that (because you take off the shades), you still keep the 5? Nekron... any word on that? *crosses fingers*

Also, last note. What is this I hear that the Bad Luck Dog still counts as a NPC even when he's dead?! Does that mean that even when I kill him, and get the +3 luck, I will have to pay for it by using up an NPC slot? I hope that this isn't true. Anyone know anything about this?

Nekron, once again.. GREAT Stats!! Thx a lot. =)
 
RE: I need help with my char creation

I don't know about if the bad luck dog counts as NPC afterwards, but I do know that it does only check Charisma when you recruit NPC's. On files with not so good Charisma, all you have to do is pop a few Mentats, then get the NPC's. When it wears off, the NPC's will stay. On the other hand, in places like Vault City where you have to leave Marcus and Lenny, it makes it kind of annoying to have to take another Mentats to get them back.
 
RE: I need help with my char creation

That's great! Then I don't even have to wait for the shades, and the modules, etc. Thx.
 
RE: I need help with my char creation

That's great! Then I don't even have to wait for the shades, and the modules, etc. Thx.
 
RE: I need help with my char creation

For over half the game I had 5 NPC's....Vic,Cassidy and Sky Net with Gauss Rifles,Sulik with a HK G11E and Marcus with a Turbo Plasma Rifle.I was also armed with a Gauss Rifle and Bozar.
I had forgotten to mention I am running the HK mod available at
Pipboy LE.It changes some of the weapons to more cooler items but not overly powerful so as to throw off game balance.
Nekron
 
RE: I need help with my char creation

Hmmmmmm.....

I dont know why I dont't use the gifted trait (I always choose chem reliant and chem resistant :P) But anyway I'll follow what you said next time I play the game. So I can get (Almost) full stats.

-That is all

-MOTE
 
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[font size=1" color="#FF0000]LAST EDITED ON Dec-29-00 AT 06:03AM (GMT)[p]Ok.... wait just a sec there. Let me get this straight. You use Chem Resist AND Chem Reliant?! Don't they nullify each other?!
 
RE: I need help with my char creation

Hmm.. I decided to try out the Buffy thing.. and nothing. I named my girl Buffy, went to Becky in the Den, and got no different response than otherwise.

Did I do it wrong somehow?
 
RE: I need help with my char creation

>Hmm.. I decided to try out
>the Buffy thing.. and nothing.
> I named my girl
>Buffy, went to Becky in
>the Den, and got no
>different response than otherwise.
>
>Did I do it wrong somehow?
>


I have no clue. I played a female named Buffy, and Becky gave me alot of stuff, including Metal Armor. I also think an Uzi went in with that. Having a female character named Buffy is very useful to get you started :)
 
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Well, I guess I wouldn't KNOW, WOULD I?! >=(

Stupid Becky. When does she give you the stuff? Is there a dialogue line?
 
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