Fun times in Beijing

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Starseeker

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http://www.cbc.ca/news/viewpoint/vp_brown/20050304.html

A show of force, as it were.

I guess those lazy guys must put up a good face for the public image.

I saw some arresting and some excitment near some major hubs.

Interesting development. Would the desire to save face in front of cameras and to look good help the human rights cause?

Also more news about Taiwan/China -

http://www.cbc.ca/story/world/national/2005/03/05/china-taiwan050305.html

Political theater at its finest?

I am curious about what leglising the act itself would do, since most people knew China wouldn't hesitate to strike should the situation arises. Maybe this is done to silence those in the government who desire a peaceful solution?

The idiot that is the president doesn't help matter either. Taiwan recently lost some high ranking intelligent officers in China due do to the fact that he must flap his big mouth. :roll:
 
Nice to see an article that says "Yes there were winners in China's economic boom, but what about the losers?" ANd points out that those folks get not only left behind but repressed.

People rarely mention that though of course there should be both winners and losers in China's booming economy.

As for the China- Taiwan legislation- I would think it's mostly two things -
(1) Diplomatic- more pressure on Taiwan not to move to far towards Independence
(2) National unity- gather the party around a platform of taking back Taiwan by force. This will limit party division but will also be a platform to sell the nation.

Could the Chinese pull off a military strike though-

According to a recent journal article in International Security- no, but they could cause harm.

International Security, Spring 2004 v28 i4 p125-160

Strangulation from the sea? a PRC Submarine blockade of Taiwan. (Peoples' Republic of China ) Micheal A. Glosny.

Abstract: The prospects for a successful coercive submarine blockade of Taiwanese ports is assessed and an analysis is made to determine how much damage a Chinese submarine blockade could do to the Taiwanese economy. The findings suggested that although a PRC submarine blockade could impose costs on Taiwan, the threat of a successful blockade is overstated.
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also -
International Security, Fall 2002 v27 i2 p48-85

Navigating the Taiwan Strait: deterrence, escalation dominance, and U.S.-China relations. Robert S. Ross.

Abstract: This article examines the United States's relations with China and Taiwan. The author, employing deterrence theory to analyze post-Cold War East Asia and U.S. policy, argues the United States can and will continue to deter the use of military force by China against Taiwan due to its military capabilities.
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Finally-

International Security, Fall 2000 v25 i2 p51
Why China Cannot Conquer Taiwan. Michael O'Hanlon.

My conclusions suggest strongly, however, that China could not take Taiwan, even if U.S. combat forces did not intervene in a conflict. Nor will China be able to invade Taiwan for at least a decade, if not much longer. As such, Washington need not abandon its policy of strategic ambiguity. China should be deterred from attempting an invasion by the military impracticalities of the scenario, regardless of U.S. policy.
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Starseeker, if you want the articles, let me know and I can see about getting it for you.

Frankly, I wish the Taiwanese would get their independence finally and not have to be bullied by the PRC.
 
Mi humble opinion is that China will not attack now, but in a decade maybe they will have the means to do so. They ARE researching war technology and increasing their fleet with both russian and stolen US technology.

Besides, if the chinese gather the technology to put a nuclear warhead in a major west coast american city with a nuclear missile sub, they might be able to even persuade the US from intervenience.

They are being patient, they do not rush the situations.
 
The Chinese have been at the war game when the USA was nothing but a giant grass land...

They invented the art of war, and they are a force to be reckoned with.
 
lol, cue the movie, the Art of War. :wink:

The interesting thing about China and its war technology is that if you live here long enough, you would wonder if they will ever have enough money or time for it.

1. The Beijing olymipics, the great leap westward, the 3 gorges dam, and quite a few more (what Chinese like to call) "world class" structures are still going on. I can just see the billions of money pouring into these and going nowhere. The desire to hire cheap labour to appease the local critics when one needs skilled labour to lay down wiring and concrete will probably fly back at them one day. And the fun part is that most of these projects are staffed by favorites of the elite, meaning - get rich quick schemes.

2. The economical boom is giving a long foreseen(well, unforseen by the Chinese I guess) problem to the Chinese. The amounts of resources draining everyday is pure insanity. Most of the gase/heat supplied is still done by coal, so is some of the electricity. The energy demand is so great that the country is spending a lot of money importing it. Of course, the government is desparate to solve these yearly crisises(summer - lots of electricity, winter - lots of heat). The most destructive building project in the world, the 3 gorges hydro dam is suppose to help relieve somn of these problems. But economical development waits for nobody. And the fact that the goverment is pushing for the great leap westward isn't helping matters. There have being a lot of push for a few things - a. a more efficient coal burning system that pollutes less(yes they start to care now, one only need to live in beijing long enough to figure that out)b. alternative energy sorces c. desire to find more natural gas/ tar sands in China d. nuclear energy.

The interesting thing about the development of nuclear energy in China is that they are currently more interested in its energy potential than its weapons potential.

As I see it, the problem with China isn't technology in of itself. It's the engineering prospect of it. The Manufactoring process. You can invent a lot of things without the ability to actually make it. As some of you may already know, trying to get all the kinks worked out to produce something isn't as easy as it seems. Da Vinci can imagine the heliocopter, but I am not sure you can build one with wood. :)

Btw, there are already 495 ballistic missles aiming at Taiwan near the Chinese coast. Exactly that many. How I knew? This is the incident that cause Taiwan to lose some of its best intelligent officers.

Anyway, Post away, welsh, it will be nice to discuss this with somnone whose head isn't under a rock. :P
 
So those that think there will be a war between the two countries think the US won’t get involved? The rest of the world won't get involved? An elementary student would be able to foresee the coming disaster there. You attack China's puppet countries; China gets involved in a big way. Now an assault on Taiwan is an assault on the US. Too much of an investment has gone in there to let it all go. Unfortunately the powers that be here in US would benefit greatly from a war with China. And I imagine it's not too hard to pull a fast one on Bush and start a war.
 
LOL

Welsh, where are my articles?!

I am eagerly anticipating some through discussion on the Asia Pacific issue. :P
 
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