Game Secrets

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yester64

First time out of the vault
are there any secrets in the game?

i've found at least the Bethesda office in the game. It did not have anything special (i actually hoped) but at least something whats not on the map.
Location is south of 'Scrapyard'.

Lets collect all secrets. Unless there are none.
 
Looks like there are some nice references, but (just like the "empty" Bethesda's office) they look unfinished.
 
mm.. actually, in the case of the office, i thought at first, oh ok perhaps there are 1000 bottlecaps somewhere or a special note. but just nothing really, just the building. kinda cool, but at the same time kinda low.
 
Im going to be annoying now...
{--- Glittering GEMS report in! ---}

of the list linked to by rcorporon here's what I think (compared to previous FO Easter egg's, I wont re-write the list here, but reference them by the order (number) in which it appears.


1, I can accept this.. this is a good reference I think.
2, again, I can accept this, I even chuckled when I first saw them in game.
3, overdone, nothing new -yawn.
4 & 5, OK, these ones are beyond be so, no comment.
6, tenuous link.
7, Yawn, its not even funny in a 'self reference'
8, Hmm OK, I can just about accept this.
9, wow, and that's considered a reference? tenuous and yawn.
10, see above with added 'really your punching it here...'
11, only just reasonable as a 'pop-culture' reference.
12, no this is not a link, its only vaguely a coincidence
13, OK, I'll grant this is a fair to middling reference.
14, hmm tenuous at best.
15, nope, don't get it, next.
16, hmm, this is a yawn.
17, REALLY!?!?!? there's a link between nuka-cola and coca-cola!?? blow me down with a *ahem* leaf blower (see what I did there.. I made a game reference joke...)
18, y'know what, I haven't actually see this in game, as such I'll say OK yeah fair enough.
19, WHAT?! uhmm no, not a good 'reference'
20, OK, I'll let this one in.
21, this one is almost a clever link. Approved.
22, almost yawn-some. The jury is out as quite frankly is it 'odd' to find such things in a 1950's referenced post apoc game?
23, NOT a link, not a reference, not anything, why is this on the list?
24, *sigh* explaining a link that is explained in the game it's self.
25, wow, this one makes some sense! Approved.
26, uhh didn't they cover this one already (number 3 covers a VERY similar link.)
27, OK, this one is allowed.
28, euh? I think I missed this one...
29, the wording on the wiki guide says everything here "could be a reference"... I suppose it could be a cheese sandwich.
30, No, Wrong, get out, wrong wrong wrong.
31, Almost allowed, but lets face it.. see numbers 26 and 3.
32, someone pass me a wall to head-butt please.
33, quote: "is probably a reference" ... OK, well when you find out if it is or not get back to me and let me know.
34, The Wiki entry does my job for me with this one.
35, I've seen the film, and no, its nothing like the situation at Tenpenny.
36, wow, numbers are like other numbers that come from three different sources, THIS MUST BE REFERENCE! [/sarcasm]
37, It's a good reference, but lets face it... a dull in game location.
38, OH my GOOOOD fallout is a little bit like Mad Max? hold me down with the restraints mother I think I may soil myself with excitement.

OK so I'm half way though my little list here, and so far out of a supposed 38 rib-tickling pop-culture refences I've found 9 which actually struck a chord with me, for the most part its seems just the mere fact that its set in a post-apoc world is good enough to supposedly reference something else almost a little bit similar if you think about it... in another post-apoc setting.

To be continued...
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muuhaany apologies for double post..

but here it comes;

re number 36 (Lost) reference my Girlfriend just looked up the numbers in 'the elegant universe' by Brian Greene and sound that these numbers excluding 42 are all referable to Albert Einstein and 42 could be linked in that the number 43 is linked with Einstein, so from this I can conclude that the reference is not to lost but Einstein... this little exercise to prove that quite frankly these listed references could refer to just about anything!

ohh and the dog in the game looks remarkably like Wellard' the dog from EastEnders... And every Other bloody DOG!

OK rage over, back to the list.
39, *sound of fingers tapping* .. yawn?
40, is this really a reference? far too tenuous.
41, HAHAHAhahah no wait I'm lying this inst funny.
42, Not a link, its more a link to the fact that my fence outside is put together with nails. abd as for steve jackson games / munchkin / gurps lets face it, this game doesnt use GURPS, or any stat driven RPG system.
43, hmm, nope. not going to count this one, some bloke that was in a top 100 of anything is not a reference. More poignantly how about Reuben, first son of Jacob and Leah (in the bible people!) and Reuben's context was draw people out of their misery and bring them together, makes just as much sense to me folks!
44, This reference is a little obscure, but acceptable.
45, the wiki entry has the words 'may be' in it, so no, no, no, NO.
46, Ymir, hmm someone with a name... not a strikingly odd one, wow.. reference? Frost Giant? the only Giants near the in game Ymir are Giant scorpions.
47, FACE --- PALM self reference, for the 'in crowd' and for a game that isn't even related to fallout.
48, well done, the weapon has a name which is based upon a scientific thing. I'm laughing... really I am, you just can't see because the interweb is in the way.
49, just what? so many cross references that even im confused.
50, best thing about this entire reference "multiple entendre" them's is some big wurds!
51, I can accept this, this (although i failed to see it in game) is a funny little reference.
52, or perhaps oooh I don't know, the unexploded bomb in Fallout Tactics?
53, tenuous. the meme that is/was 'the cake is a lie' is funny in its own right, but the phrase "communism is a lie" sounds all too much like everyday propaganda.
54, this one fails why not actually have a freeking minigun in there with the name rather than a rifle.
55, hmm, I'm having to concentrate too hard to find the link here.
56, "Take a leap", this is probably something that a ton of people have said. Just having the same words in a sentence as the title of a series doth not a link make.
57, hmm, real world reference OK, beth-soft reference, no, no, no, NO.
58, this one fails because quite frankly the 'diners' are a stereotypical feature of the setting more than anything.
59, tenuous, but allowed.
60, allowed but treading dangerous ground, movie quotes a re ten a penny.
61, an RPG reference here in a FPS game, how absurd. An Ironic mootity
62, A tricycle ALL RUN IN FEAR! (lets face it, these can also be found, well, anywhere in the wasteland)
63, *sigh* tenuous. but sadly allowed as a pop-culture link.
64, Big Whup... anywhere with raiders has mutilated bodies etc, it just happens to be a school.
65, allowed.
66, these are stretching my will to live, but allowed as links.
67, tenuous at best.
68, 1: lame 2: allowed 3: allowed 4: GET OUT OF MY GAME
69, this is one of the better references.
70, a bit freekin lame.
71, I'm going to bundle this in with the growing number of 'vietnam war film' references, and being that there are numerous instances already, this one isn't allowed.
72, hah! a giant robot yelling what another giant robot yelled. The idea of liberty prime sucked, the in game story at this point being the gaming equivalent of tipping cold tapioca pudding over ones head, and for this reason alone, this one isn't allowed in, even though the reference is a good one.
73, ok, this one is good. let him passed boys.
74, GET YOUR SHITTY PREVIOUS GAMES OUT OF FALLOUT!
75, Fawkes [/sensible reasoning]
76, What the hell is this reference on about?
77, this could be acceptable.
78, poke my eyes with a stick, this reference hurts my brain. valid yes, obvious, yes, interesting... not really.

so there y'go, let it be known that although some of the references are accurate, for the most part, I don't really give a hoot, an in game reference (for me at least) is best used when it has some mild humour to its context or existence most of the time in FO3's references they're simply there just because its a reference. and as for the 'cross-genre' beth-soft in house referencing, well I suppose the grognak thing is OK, but some of the other bits are pure lamety (a brand new word to help describe such things.

aaaaaaand one thing? surely this list misses out some of the more subtle and fun references.. like the Yao Guai bears that will eat you whole given chance?

To sum up, there are good references in the game, and some make me actually smile in recognition, but this wiki-list strains the actual meaning of the word tenuous at times... leaving me to think that perhaps FO3 is in fact quite devoid of reference humour.
Apologies to anyone that hates long posts or list posts, and also to the mods... but I had to get my point across on these. I feel better for having done so.
 
I like how the list states the dog in FO3 is modeled after the dog in "I Am Legend" (a german shepherd) and the dog in Mad Max (an australian blue heeler, I used to have one of these, they're really nice dogs.)

I think a lot of these are just fans seeing what they want and drawing their own conclusions. Not that there's anything wrong with that. I speculated at one time that the holotape found in the Glow signed by a "Sgt D" meant that someone on the design time was a Stormtroopers of Death (old Anthrax spin off band) fan. But no, it was proven to be a cooincidence by the dev team on the Interplay board.

I agree with ol Joe, a lot of those are ridiculously tenuous.
 
I saw a raider with his pants down getting paddled by a bunch of other raiders. A frag grenade into the center of them cleared up that re-enactment of animal house pretty quick.
 
I don't think "Yao Guai" bears means what you think it does Joe. "Yao Guai" is Chinese for "Monster", roughly. So any connection you're making there is coincidental.
 
Trithne said:
I don't think "Yao Guai" bears means what you think it does Joe. "Yao Guai" is Chinese for "Monster", roughly. So any connection you're making there is coincidental.
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thank you for this info, good to know these things, my very first reaction was to draw the line between Yao Guai and Yogi, so perhaps that was just me.

Back to the cavern of hate I go!
 
It also doesn't make sense to call the things from both Fallout 2 and Fallout 3 Centaurs. THey don't even have a horse part in them :)

The name for the bears may be a reference to Yogi, but also probably to add to the Chinese presence on the East Coast. There's the weapons, the suits, the still-living Chinese Ghouls of old, etc... one enemy with a Chinese-origin name is just to add to it I guess. That and it sounds cooler than Dire Bear, Mutated Bear, Radbear, GrizzlyTerror, and other names they could have chosen.

Personally, I prefer GrizzlyTerror.
 
nemetoad said:
It also doesn't make sense to call the things from both Fallout 2 and Fallout 3 Centaurs. THey don't even have a horse part in them :)

The name for the bears may be a reference to Yogi, but also probably to add to the Chinese presence on the East Coast. There's the weapons, the suits, the still-living Chinese Ghouls of old, etc... one enemy with a Chinese-origin name is just to add to it I guess. That and it sounds cooler than Dire Bear, Mutated Bear, Radbear, GrizzlyTerror, and other names they could have chosen.

Personally, I prefer GrizzlyTerror.
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Nah, Dire Rad Bear ftw :P
 
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